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Weapons of Saturn [UPDATE May 09, 2018]

Postby Lippeth » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:03 am

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I know the number of weapon mods using the exact same, run-o-the-mill resources is on the higher side, and I'm not claiming to unleash anything groundbreaking with this small project. If I've violated anything, someone let me know so I can make it right.

I started out by combining sprites, sounds and code from wads like Beautiful Doom, Brutal Doom, Realm667 and a handful of Weasel's mods (as well as some coding from Ed the Bat), and while some aspects are almost verbatim to the source material, I've hopefully added enough tweaks, bends and breaks to make something new that you might have fun with. My goal was to give a little more punch to vanilla style gameplay. Nothing massive, just an edge. I've spent countless hours refining everything to keep the sight, sound and gameplay as balanced as possible. So if any part of this could be improved, let me know.

Weapons of Saturn Updated May 12, 2018

Classic Revival HUD Updated January 01, 2015

Ketchup-Lippeth Also, here's my version of that Ketchup Gore mod
Spoiler: OLD VIDEO

Spoiler: UPDATES
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby wildweasel » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:02 am

Not bad, actually. My only real complaints here are that the minigun doesn't feel especially powerful (maybe 1 extra point of damage and a beefier sound), and the ejected shotgun shells are quite massive and could be scaled down some.
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Ed the Bat » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:39 am

Slowly yet surely, my influence spreads! :twisted:

Seriously though, I'm always flattered when I can make an impact with someone. :)
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Gothic » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:01 pm

Interesting mod, also I liked that rocket launcher
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Lippeth » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:39 pm

My argument to the size of ejected shells would be that they normally look to small in most mods and I tried to make them more realistically relative to the size of shells loaded in, the size of the shells you pick up from the floor, and the size of the guns they're coming out of. But if after considering all that they still look too big, then they're too big. It's hard to tell this from that after looking at a screen for too long.

Good points on the minigun. I'm still trying to balance it with the vanilla chaingun. I want to keep the same damage over time while increasing the rate of fire, ammo used and pinning power. And by using so much ammo I needed to give it more ammo, but ultimately even it out to compare with the original.

My biggest question is: is a mod like this even worth anyone's time? Or is this sort of thing so trivial that it would be better kept for private use by its author? My hope is that it at least expands resources by a fraction to help improve other projects.
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby cortlong50 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:33 pm

Lippeth wrote:My argument to the size of ejected shells would be that they normally look to small in most mods and I tried to make them more realistically relative to the size of shells loaded in, the size of the shells you pick up from the floor, and the size of the guns they're coming out of. But if after considering all that they still look too big, then they're too big. It's hard to tell this from that after looking at a screen for too long.

Good points on the minigun. I'm still trying to balance it with the vanilla chaingun. I want to keep the same damage over time while increasing the rate of fire, ammo used and pinning power. And by using so much ammo I needed to give it more ammo, but ultimately even it out to compare with the original.

My biggest question is: is a mod like this even worth anyone's time? Or is this sort of thing so trivial that it would be better kept for private use by its author? My hope is that it at least expands resources by a fraction to help improve other projects.



listen bud. im diggin it. im always looking for weapon packs because my game is perfect, i just want moer weapons to throw into the mix (im not backspacing for that fucked up more). thats what im working on too. its not gonna change the entire community...but if youre looking to just put something out and have a good time put it out, someone might enjoy it...some people might not. make it how you like and drop it on the community and see what happens. ya dig?
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby cortlong50 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:33 pm

and hell yeah im downloading this.
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Lippeth » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:10 pm

Well, sweet then. I've updated the link to add exactly ONE point of damage from the minigun, which actually feels a bit nicer. Exactly ONE nicer. Instead of the bullets going from 2, 4, 2, 4, 2 plus a tracer that does 1 to 2 points, it fires straight threes across the board with the tracer unchanged. I also attempted to give the fire sound more of a presence with subtle undertones.
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Re: [WIP] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby CynicalIdealist » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:36 pm

Since Back to Saturn X happens to be my all time favorite mapset, I am extremely looking forward to trying this mod out. Downloading it right now!
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Re: [NEW HUD!] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Lippeth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:10 am

I've added a HUD to the main post for no reason other than I've been wanting to make one that looks like the old stat bar with an open space in the middle so you can see your weapons more clearly, as well as have a spot for secondary ammo.
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Re: [NEW HUD!] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby DoomRater » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:38 am

That fist is.... SATISFYING. Something about its sound effect.
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Re: [NEW HUD!] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby cortlong50 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:05 pm

DoomRater wrote:That fist is.... SATISFYING. Something about its sound effect.


i know how you feel.
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Re: [NEW HUD!] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby blackfish » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:31 pm

Hey look my BTSX HUD design (Sort of). :P I do like how the secondary ammo is on top though.
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Re: [NEW HUD!] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Lippeth » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:45 pm

blackfish wrote:Hey look my BTSX HUD design (Sort of). :P I do like how the secondary ammo is on top though.

I actually started by making a version of your HUD with a secondary ammo counter to use with weapon mods, and that inspired me to make a classic style HUD based on your work. I've never made one before, so I had to use your coding as a base to work from. If I have un-rulefully used any resources that I'm not supposed to use, or my level of rip-offery is distasteful, let me know and I'll make adjustments or remove it completely. The key light graphics and ammo fonts are mainly what I'm referring to.
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DoomRater wrote:That fist is.... SATISFYING. Something about its sound effect.

Thanks! I didn't do much to change it, but I did add a low pitched metal 'dink' sound to the existing Beautiful Doom punch sound to give it more of a brass knuckley effect.
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Re: [NEW HUD!] Another weapon mod using others' resources

Postby Woolie Wool » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:54 pm

I'd suggest changing the ammo font to the Doom font rather than the BTSX font because the BTSX font looks very out of place with the Doom graphics.
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