








Hey Torm, any real-life example of 'em? Maybe I could have some but I need an example.Tormentor667 wrote:...that can be used hanging from the ceiling, at a wall or sticking out of the ground. This shouldn't be hyper-modern as it is used in a WolfenDoom mod.
You mean "literally traced from textures by esselfortium"...Tormentor667 wrote:Found something useful in my Refinery, totally forgot about these (based on idea by esselfortium)
Of course. As always, the only problem with you stealing my shit and lying about it is my attitude.Tormentor667 wrote:Yes, I retraced them. Yes I have been dishonest, deceptive and ungrateful. And yes, we both know that I have excused myself when things happened. People make mistakes. Though feel free to continue being resentful and waste time and energy, for me this is just a perfect example of a bagatelle meanwhile who considers himself and his work to be more important than it actually is.
I retraced them, it is based on work by essel but it is completely recreated with Photoshop. We have discussed that already years ago when The Refinery has been released and I already excused myself for the way I've acted. The situation was cleared. It's not that I didn't care back then. It's simply narrow-minded that essel starts over again.Tormentor667 wrote:Found something useful in my Refinery, totally forgot about these (based on idea by esselfortium)
This is exactly what it is: An idea by essel that he has prepared for TSoZD and that I recreated in Photoshop for my own projects. I see no reason to apologize again for something we have already discussed.Tormentor667 wrote:Found something useful in my Refinery, totally forgot about these (based on idea by esselfortium)
Why would I expect anything positive to come from PMing you about it after how you've treated me over it before, and again here? And yes, it is necessary. There was never a "misunderstanding", you understood the terms exactly when you were ripping off my stuff and lying to me about it. I've not exactly been given a reason to tread lightly or assume an innocent mistake here.Tormentor667 wrote:I simply take the situation with a pinch of salt. I always state in my mod's text files that people are free to use resources or base their work because it makes things easier (with crediting of course). For me this is kinda usual and sometimes I simply forget to ask (but never forget to credit). I mean, do people ever ask 3D Realms, GT Interactive or even ID Software if it is okay to edit or reuse their work in different games? It's actually the same situation. Not that I consider this to be a call to rip and copy the hell out of other people's work but to a certain extend, this is what keeps the community alive. Not everyone is a good sprite artist but maybe a good mapper or coder.
Concerning the cables: As I have stated before, the situation has been cleared up back then. For me Essel's instigations are a proof that this is not about the cables but a more personal thing. Just for the comparison: Wildwessel sent me pm concerning ww-nazis, wouldnt have a pm from essel be enough saying "Hey Torm, misunderstanding regarding the cables!". Instead he drags a cleared situation into public, that has been discussed privately in the TSoZD forums and via pm, fishing for supporters. Honestly,... is this necessary?
And to think, it only took three years*EDIT*
See first post for new cable textures, build from scratch.
Then why the public effort? For your bandwagon campaign? We both know it's not about the cables anymore, but if you know my ignorant point of view, I don't get it why you invest so much time to describe factoids.esselfortium wrote:Why would I expect anything positive to come from PMing you about it after how you've treated me over it before, and again here?