Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

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Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Yhe100 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:14 pm

I just tried it, and it has a bunch of HOM errors. "no hope in sight" is an nblood exclusive. So If Raze is a fork of Nblood, then Raze should be able to play it. Perhaps someone should take a look at it?
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby mjr4077au » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:53 pm

If you can provide a download link, I can take a look at it tonight. Raze does fork NBlood's code but there's a significant amount of underlying changes that could impact compatibility.

Can you please also confirm the version of Raze that you're using?
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Yhe100 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:01 am

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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Graf Zahl » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:29 am

So this is NoOne's mod for which he implemented all those 'modern' features? Let's hope I got everything together.
My guess here would be the messy installation. This mod does everything bad a Blood mod can do to work with the totally screwed up resource management of the engine - which NBlood meticulously preserves.
I'll have to see what it needs but my strong recommendation would be to clean out the mess and zip it up in a form that allows playing it without altering the base game's data. In its present form I'd never dare running it for the fear of destroying some data.

And considering that NoOne submitted some new features to NBlood long after Raze 0.6 there's still a good chance that it won't work on that version.
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby sinisterseed » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:10 am

It doesn't seem to run on 5330964a7a622fe6d8b54a0982c336dd2456d9f4 either.

I just tried to .zip the contents of the mod from inside the NHIS folder and load the newly created archive with -file, but it doesn't seem to load up. I'm not seeing any changes.
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Graf Zahl » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:19 am

That's because this mod needs more work. It's a totally messed up launch procedure, without running the batch it is bound to break. I'll need to invest a bit of time here to make sure that everything works as expected.
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby sinisterseed » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:45 am

Like one of those old DOS mods? Jeez...

I've seen plenty of mods using batch files to run, but I've never had any use for them. In GDX I would just select the .ini file to run from the User Maps/Mods entry in the menu, while in NBood I would rename the .ini to BLOOD.INI and select it at startup. Fascinating.
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Graf Zahl » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:50 am

This is definitely one of the worst I've ever seen. I'll post an update later this evening.
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Yhe100 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:11 am

Can 0.71 play "Blood: no hope in sight" now? Thanks much!
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Re: Can Raze play Blood Mod "no hope in sight"?

Postby Graf Zahl » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:44 am

TBH, I haven't tried to untangle that messed up distribution yet.
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