Project Posting Guidelines

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Project Posting Guidelines

Postby Cutmanmike » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:48 am

Got a cool project idea but nothing else? This forum is NOT for you! Put it in this thread instead!

Before we get to the guidelines, let me explain the purpose of each subforum.

Levels is for projects that contain new maps, or whose primary purpose is new maps. If you've created a new level that happens to contain one or two new weapons and maybe an extra monster, it still goes in Levels.

Gameplay Mods is for projects that DO NOT contain new maps. Game behavior tends to be changed, typically through use of DECORATE, ACS, ZScript, etc. If the project contains new maps, but they are not the primary purpose of the project (i.e. TEST maps, training courses, or things like DoomRPG's Outpost map), it is still a Gameplay Mod.

TCs and Other Projects is primarily for Total Conversion mods. A Total Conversion's main purpose is to contain both new levels AND significant gameplay changes, or else goes to great effort to avoid resembling the source game. Notable TCs include Massmouth 2, Adventures of Square, the WolfenDOOM series, and Doom: The Golden Souls. Standalone games that use a Doom-based engine may also go here. This category is also intended for projects that cannot otherwise fit into a category.

Resources is where you'd place things that other users my use in their projects, that are not projects that can be directly run by themselves. Sprites, textures, code snippets, editing examples, sound effect packs, and templates all belong here. It is also where you may request resources from other users. The Resources forum has its own guidelines that you should read before you post threads in there.

Graphics/Sound Patches is where high-res texture packs, music replacements, and HUD patches belong. In most cases, these won't contain major logic changes or gameplay alterations, but some do, so please mind the Readme files to avoid incompatibility with other mods.

Software and Ports should be self-explanatory; if you are working on a Doom port or a piece of software that somehow relates to Doom (map and lump editors, launchers, automated tools, and whatever else), those belong here. It must be Doom or Doom-engine-related!

And now, on with the Guidelines.

1) Before posting a new topic here, be sure you actually have a project in progress or release. For example, posting a new thread called "Mario TC" with the post "Hey i'm making a mario tc, more info soon!" isn't good enough. Be sure you've got plans for your project. Think about things like main features, help you could possibly want, suggestions you'd like. Or go take a few screenshots. People like screenshots. Just make sure you have a base for what you're going to be working on or no one is going to take interest. (Your title screen really doesn't count.)

2) Just to clarify from the above rule: you need to post something from your project! If a project thread is posted without screenshots, we'll give you 24 hours to get them added, or else your project thread is going to get locked. Not everybody wants to download a large-ish WAD file and puzzle over what exactly is changed, so it helps to show people what it looks like without making them read a wall of text or download a file and be surprised. If the mod has already been released in the thread's first post, screenshots are merely suggested, not required. We can be more lenient for mods where a screenshot does not convey what the mod actually does, i.e. for music and sound patches or mutators.

3) When making a new topic, it's nice to let people know the actual progress of the project. If it's in progress, put WIP in the title. If it's finished put released. If you feel you need to, you can put a % of how much it's done, or a date it's going to be completed by (take care with that). Remember you can always edit the first post of your topic to change the title of the thread.

4) If you finish a project, be sure to edit the first post and post the link there or AT LEAST edit the title and tell us what page the download link is on. People don't feel like going through 10+ pages of progress and comments just to find the download link. Also it's nice to add screens and neat formatting on the first page too. After all no one is going to download your project if you just have a link to it. But if you have a few screens to show off what you're downloading, people will be all over it!

5) Remember, this is about YOUR project. Don't beg the community for help if you're just going to sit there and order people around. That's not how a project is built. Discuss your ideas before starting a project and asking for help. If people don't like your project idea they're probably not going to help you out, so it's best to find out first. Remember, people have their own opinions.

6) This isn't so much a project posting guideline as it is a guideline for those of you keeping track of projects. If a project thread hasn't been posted in for more than six months, it may not be such a good idea to bump it asking if it has been released yet. If it has been released, odds are that the author will update his topic with information about the release.

6b) In the event somebody DOES bump a year-old project thread, there may be a chance that a moderator will add [Abandoned?] to the thread's title. If you decide to keep working on the project, feel free to edit that out of your thread title, as this is only to prevent further irritating bumps.

7) No more Coop bots made out of DECORATE. They're not bots, they're not helpful and they won't make it as fun as a regular coop. It's been done again and again and we don't need any more of them.

8) !! NEW !! for 2013: Randy has added project thumbnail support for the Projects and Resources forums. By default, the thumbnail will be the first image posted to the thread, but this can be manipulated through BBCode like this:
Code: Select allExpand view
[thumb]http://imagebarf.gov/maisuperawesomesauceimage.gif[/thumb]

And if, for some reason, you don't like the thumbnails, they can be disabled through the User Control Panel.

9) Always give credit to everybody whose resources you have used in your .WAD. People do not appreciate having their works put in other's mods without credit to them. If you do not know who to credit, post the resources with missing credits, so that someone else, possibly the original author, can state who made it. (thanks, TheMightyHeracross)

10) The Projects forum is NOT just for ZDoom-specific projects! We'll accept threads for damn near anything Doom-engine-related, and that includes projects for Zandronum, PRBoom+, vanilla Doom, Heretic, Strife, Doom 64 or even Vavoom if you want to go that route. All we ask is that you make it clear what your project needs to run; people don't tend to guess correctly when faced with a project that "won't start." (Oh, and don't yell at people if their project isn't ZDoom-specific, because that argument ALWAYS comes up and we're all sick of it.)

11) And most importantly: do NOT include Doom2.wad in your project. If you absolutely must, use FreeDoom instead. See the official community rules for more info.

12) Do not release your project on a devbuild and expect it to work forever (by next release). If you want your project to last, release on the latest version of GZDoom only. Projects that use beta or in-development features may break. See this thread.
Last edited by Cutmanmike on Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:10 am, edited 9 times in total.
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Postby Phobus » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:57 am

I imagine this is worthy of announcement status...
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Postby Dancso » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:38 am

Can i suggest some guidelines?

2+) Try to keep your project updates, and all the other basic things shown on your first post, so whoever is interested, doesn't have to browse through all the pages, he/she can see it on the first page.

5) Your Project thread should have a basic layout, because if you write everything in one paragraph it could be un-readable, and cramped text looks longer. Most people would TLDR.(Too long didnt read) Try to keep some space between the "parts" of the text, like description should go into an other paragraph than let's say, Updates.
You can make the headings in bold text, or in Underlined,(or both) as they separate the parts of your text, and it's easier to find certain things.
Also, if you have screenshots, try to put them in spoiler tags(or by a link), for 2 reasons:
1.People that don't want to spoil themselves with the screenshots, cannot accidently see them.
2.In-game screenshots are usually big in size, and they could wreck the forum layout for people that use a lower resolution.

(How about these? If they are okay, put it in the first post, you can edit it if you like.)
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby DBThanatos » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:48 pm

I dont think i can say this is a bump, but whatever :P .

@cutmanmike: I noticed the tittle change in this announcement, and I think is very acertive. I'm happy to see that someone else gets pissed too for the threads that should have been posted in general/editing/anywhere-else.

Still, Im sure the announcement will be ignored (as have been) and we'll have more and more unjustified threads here.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Xaser » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:29 am

Am I the only one who doesn't like this? I understand the need for more attention here but I don't like the way it's shouted in the topic title/top of thread. Alienating the newcomers isn't such a good idea.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Project Dark Fox » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:31 am

I would think a simple READ THIS would convey the message enough.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Pinky's ass » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:10 pm

Project Dark Fox wrote:I would think a simple READ THIS would convey the message enough.

Nope, the title must be harsh. :mrgreen:
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Project Dark Fox » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:18 pm

Pinky's ass wrote:
Project Dark Fox wrote:I would think a simple READ THIS would convey the message enough.

Nope, the title must be harsh. :mrgreen:

I'm sorry, but I agree with Xaser. As he said, alienating newbies before they even make a post is probably one of the dumber ideas I've seen on the board. If newbies need alienating, they just simply have to act stupid enough -- much like ... a certain... ass I'm "debating" with now. Fuck.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby esselfortium » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:33 pm

Also note that no matter what this thread is named, no one will ever actually pay attention to it Image
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Pinky's ass » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:03 pm

Project Dark Fox wrote:I'm sorry, but I agree with Xaser. As he said, alienating newbies before they even make a post is probably one of the dumber ideas I've seen on the board. If newbies need alienating, they just simply have to act stupid enough -- much like ... a certain... ass I'm "debating" with now. borg.

See??? I'm very alienated. :grumpy:
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Project Dark Fox » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:08 pm

Pinky's ass wrote:See??? I'm very alienated. :grumpy:

That's because no one cares about you.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Pinky's ass » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:12 pm

Project Dark Fox wrote:
Pinky's ass wrote:See??? I'm very alienated. :grumpy:

That's because no one cares about you.

No, and that's a luck, considering the people who frequent this board.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Unknown_Assassin » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:25 pm

esselfortium wrote:Also note that no matter what this thread is named, no one will ever actually pay attention to it Image


Exactly. I'd say leave the title the way it is.
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Enjay » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:45 pm

Even though the title could, in theory, be any F'ing word, we all know what it conveys and I feel that the aggressiveness of the title is inappropriate. I feel it is additionally so because this board actively filters the use of certain rude words.

And that's coming from someone who is quite happy with swear words and no longer has the filter activated anyway (mainly because of the obtrusive substitutions it was making).
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Re: F*@"!ING READ THIS NOW!!!! * Project Posting Guidelines *

Postby Slasher » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:55 pm

I'm a newb, and I read the guidlines in all sections long before I ever joined the forums. I can't say for sure how I would react if I had seen this title back then, but I can say that it does make this community sound like a bunch of stuck up jerks... Practically verbally abusing you before you've done anything wrong. I'd say make it sound firm without the need to resort to harsh language, regardless of censureship.

Project Dark Fox wrote:I would think a simple READ THIS would convey the message enough.


I completely agree with PDF on this.
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