The Future

Hirogen2 · Post by **Hirogen2** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:00 am

@Graf: Think of ZDBSP - it also exists as a standalone executable and inside ZDoom.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:20 am

That's different. Nodes are a kind of data that is created in addition to the existing levels, not to replace them. Besides, building nodes can take 5 seconds or more per level, not per game. What I fear is that some people release their stuff in compiled form only - and I'd really hate to see that (just see Cold as Hell's missing ACS source for one disaster that already happened.) It would also severely limit the integration of the compiled code into the game. If the compiler knows the layout of internal data structures it can much better optimize for them

whelanirish · Post by **whelanirish** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:16 pm

Why not call it "Zoomscript"? Then we could call it "Zoom" for short.

The ZDoom public waits respectfully (with some exceptions) for the script. When I sit punching keys and sprinkling errors everywhere, I think to myself, "What do I have a computer for? Why am I supporting this expensive box of electronic surplus?" With the arrival of a scripting language we can live in efficient and error-free peace at last.

HobbsTiger1 · Post by **HobbsTiger1** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:23 pm

whelanirish wrote:Why not call it "Zoomscript"? Then we could call it "Zoom" for short.

The ZDoom public waits respectfully (with some exceptions) for the script. When I sit punching keys and sprinkling errors everywhere, I think to myself, "What do I have a computer for? Why am I supporting this expensive box of electronic surplus?" With the arrival of a scripting language we can live in efficient and error-free peace at last.

Get back to us on that when you type something a bit more understandable and meaningful.

whelanirish · Post by **whelanirish** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:34 pm

HobbsTiger1 wrote:
whelanirish wrote:Why not call it "Zoomscript"? Then we could call it "Zoom" for short.

The ZDoom public waits respectfully (with some exceptions) for the script. When I sit punching keys and sprinkling errors everywhere, I think to myself, "What do I have a computer for? Why am I supporting this expensive box of electronic surplus?" With the arrival of a scripting language we can live in efficient and error-free peace at last.
Get back to us on that when you type something a bit more understandable and meaningful.

The meaning is mostly for programmers, and it's humorous for them. Don t be so mean. Goodbye, forum.

Sir_Alien · Post by **Sir_Alien** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:42 pm

HobbsTiger1 wrote:Get back to us on that when you type something a bit more understandable and meaningful.

Get back to us when you can contribute something to this forum that isn't an unnecessarily caustic remark in response to a perfectly innocent post.

I mean, c'mon, Jallaman was banned and this petulant child is still allowed to roam around and take out his child-hood trauma on everyone?

HobbsTiger1 · Post by **HobbsTiger1** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:55 pm

@whelanirish: Don't blame the forum for my bad mood. And definetly don't leave because of it. Its my fault for being an ass, and thusly apologize.

@Sir_Alien: I am petulant. Spiteful too. There are other words people use to describe me, however I won't repeat them here (because its rude to say such things). In any case my remark was out of line (here, only here) and I apologize for it (see above). I do not however take my "child-hood trauma" (lol) out on everyone.

As for contributing something, I am making a wad, just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean its no contribution. And until I see zdoomforums.wad I don't want to hear any shit about "we don't really know you're working until its done." The only people that get details on it are the ones in my IRC channel, if you want some, go there.

Sir_Alien · Post by **Sir_Alien** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:24 pm

HobbsTiger1 wrote:@Sir_Alien: I am petulant. Spiteful too. There are other words people use to describe me, however I won't repeat them here (because its rude to say such things). In any case my remark was out of line (here, only here) and I apologize for it (see above). I do not however take my "child-hood trauma" (lol) out on everyone.

Nice one man. It's comforting to know that you will, at least occassionally, admit fault. You do get pissy very easily tho, but having had this discussion with you before I won't go on.

As you've stated, you won't change, and that's your perogative. I just think that this is one example of a very pissy trend.

HobbsTiger1 wrote:As for contributing something, I am making a wad, just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean its no contribution. And until I see zdoomforums.wad I don't want to hear any shit about "we don't really know you're working until its done." The only people that get details on it are the ones in my IRC channel, if you want some, go there.

True on all counts. I didn't intend to question you on your contribution of actual work, however.

Kristus · Post by **Kristus** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:03 am

ZDF - Zdoom Definition File(s)
...yes, it's a DDF/EDF ripp-off

ZCD - Zdoom Character Data

ZONE - Someone figure out a plausible meaning for this acronym.

ZAP - Zdoom Actor/Action Protocol

Post by **Caligari87** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:02 pm

Zdoom Omnipotent Niceifying Equation - Well, you wanted a meaning for ZONE

DoomRater · Post by **DoomRater** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:37 pm

skadoomer wrote:
KingofFlames wrote:will sprites and sounds work for all games so you can summon monsters in any game?
(just wondering....)
I would guess so because you can already summon any class of monster provided you give the engine the graphical and sound resources for it. I don't see why this would change.

Really? I went into a Doom 2 game and typed "Summon Ettin" and an Ettin did spawn, although I could not see it or hear it. It appeared on the map with IDDT activated. (Either YNI or Bouncy summoned a Heiserarch or however it's spelled on me on a map I made while playing Deathmatch and the only way I even knew waht it was had been checking the map and seeing the three things circling it)

Shadelight · Post by **Shadelight** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:46 pm

ZONE

sounds like Sonic to me

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:19 am

Zeus

If you want a meaning: Z Usecode -> Zusecode -> Zeuscode -> Zeus!

Shadelight · Post by **Shadelight** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:27 am

@Jonathan: your contribution does not make sense.

ZDoom Advanced Scripting

ZDAS

Post by **Enjay** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:50 am

KingofFlames wrote:@Jonathan: your contribution does not make sense.

Works for me. What's more, naming it after the supreme ruler of Mount Olympus and of the Pantheon of gods who resided there seems kind of cool.