Google "Doon barrel suicide" for details but essentially:kevansevans wrote:Like, have a demon self destruct with a barrel, or is there some other arcane method of self damage I'm unaware of?Sir Robin wrote:get a monster to suicide
Or make a different achievement for each monster suicide since they are different difficulties
Monster hits barrel but doesn't destroy it
Monster hits barrel again with hitscan or melee attack
Barrel explodes, hits but doesn't kill monster
Monster then targets self and begins suicide attempt
Only melee monsters can successfully suicide because hitscan monsters can't hit themselves.
First suicide I ever saw was vanilla Doom v1.1 E1M8. Barons are good candidates for suicide because they have both a melee attack and enough hitpoints to easily survive the initial barrel explosion.
I guess you could have different achievements, one for monsters accidentally hitting a barrel and blowing themselves up and one for monsters that actually bite/claw themselves to death.
Another achievement: get a skull to kill a pain elemental. Player can weaken but skull does final blow.