Bouncy's Reelism 2 Mod Pack (v 0.902 - now working for 1.23)

[ExpendableRound]

How is this mod loaded if one is using a mod loader such as ZDL3? Does it come before or after Reelism 2?
Yes, I read that using the mod itself auto-loads Reelism.

[wildweasel]

How is this mod loaded if one is using a mod loader such as ZDL3? Does it come before or after Reelism 2?
Yes, I read that using the mod itself auto-loads Reelism.

It goes neither before, nor after - load it on its own, and if Reelism 2 is in the same folder, that'll happen automatically.

[BouncyTEM]

New version! 0.17! Go check it out.

Included in this update:

The Great Pig Revolt! A new enemy reel of pissed off hogwitzers, gammorean enforcers, and pigcops. Some say there's some cool pigcops that may not be hostile...?

New NPCs! You can now bribe the Pirates to be on your side for a run, and, somewhere, Corvus may be able to sell you a copy of the Tome of Power, whenever you want it...

Plenty more to do, still, but, progress.

[Captain J]

Oh hey update!! Just tried it out. Newly added Reels are so amazing! Pig one in particular is something that makes me happy. Although it's not the easy reel to deal with, Pig Cops in various outfit are where it's at!

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- Thing that seems Overkill 1: Pig Cops, including Undead ones and Girly ones have CRAPTON of health. Their health pool is probably as same as Yetis'. No wait, they're slightly stronger than Yetis! No wonder why they tanked two Slug shots because that certainly did not happen in OG Duke3d. Pretty sure Gammorean Enforcers needed those health instead since they're a melee enemy to the core.

- Thing that seems Overkill 2: Mini Bosses do not drop ammo, at all. They usually take a lot of punishments by having large health pool and serious damage but not giving any ammo is like an unnecessary level of punishment to me.

- I couldn't take a screenshot of it but Mini Maulotaurs do dash at me, but rarely. Also they spawn two smoke trails on the ground for some reason.


- M.F. Wizard in a truck's fireball shows wrong sprite.

- The Front Rebels go to idle state once they get spawned and would stand on the spawner if they think it's safe. Quite concerning that they would block the spawner.

- So about the Pirate Token i can buy, it's like every single Pirate becomes your ally once their reel's up? It's cool and all but seems like an awkward gamble since you have to wait for such a reel to happen. If not, it just takes inventory space. Make it activate the reel by force, maybe?

- Tome of Power on Thunderbolt seems ridiculously OP, since it cost only one cell per fire.

- Continuum of Discord might need 4 difficulty ratings because of A: Having too many mob spawners matter in REELism 2. Maybe it was a bit lenient in previous game for having OP weapons but in sequel, you know how much the weaponry got balanced.

And B: THE JERK mostly does real good job cleaning the room full of monsters but when i was at the Throne Room and he appeared, he was still at idle state until i left the room. Pretty sure he could hear me anywhere in other maps.

Good update yo. I certainly will look forward into other weapons' on Tome of Power!

[BouncyTEM]

Right, so, here's what I got in response.

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Pigcops have high health because of their relative rarity, but the value probably still needs tweaking. The spawner is supposed to be severely weighted against them and even Gamorreans have a higher chance. Back when they had 150 health, I felt they were dropping way too quickly for the least common pig enemy. I'll tone it down into a more reasonable compromise. Edit: They have less health, now, and the Gamorreans slightly more. See if this is reasonable.

I can't verify this. Every time I kill a miniboss over here, it always drops three, if not five, ammo, as I weighted it to in the code. I'm not sure what's going on on your end? Edit: I did forget to let the Dialup Noob give ammo, so that's fixed. The rest already did, though.

The maulotaur's code is a mess since most of it still seems to be locked into heretic's actions. I don't *think* I can do anything about this?

Noted sprite conflict, will fix. Edit: Fixed.

I haven't had them idle like this before. I've had them stand for a bit, as expected, but not...that? I can still see about adding some wandering states in their spawn, though, or something. Edit: On the offchance that they do idle and get stuck, they'll wander off the spawner now.

I can try to look into allowing it to force the pirate's reel, but I *really* can't make any promises on that one - the item has already been a *nightmare* to get working for me.

Yeah, I intend to tweak the thunderbolt's ammo settings. Just something that I forgot to do since that was last messed with back when Reelism 2 was at 0.5. Edit: Done.

You may be right, Discord might need 4. Edit: Done.

Another one I can't verify - every time Jerk spawns for me, he's acting as intended. I'm not sure what's going on on your end?

Good feedback! Appreciated. I've done some of the tweaks needed, so it's updated again.

[Captain J]

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I can't verify this. Every time I kill a miniboss over here, it always drops three, if not five, ammo, as I weighted it to in the code. I'm not sure what's going on on your end? Edit: I did forget to let the Dialup Noob give ammo, so that's fixed. The rest already did, though.

So here's the update on this: Mini-Bosses do drop ammo upon death. However, they suddenly refuse to drop it when boss round arrives. If they get gibbed though, they drop ammo like nothing happened. Besides that, certain enemies like Exploding Lips and Pirates(they do drop coins but still) randomly drop ammo. They do drop things eventually, but the percentage on this is most likely 50%. Don't believe me? Try killing them one by one.

Another one I can't verify - every time Jerk spawns for me, he's acting as intended. I'm not sure what's going on on your end?

Luckily, i took the footage of a certain issue. Thought it was some kind of rare case but it happened again!

All in all, i think enemies have a slightly harsh damage output. Things i couldn't handle with my best was Mini-Maulotaur doing that ground flame and a tiny Pig with turret on it. That small thing definitely does some damage.

[BouncyTEM]

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Exploding Lips and Pirates ammo values tweaked - the logic behind them not dropping it all the time was that, as they're so *plentiful* enemies, if they all dropped it 100% of the time, ammo would become an irrelevant part of game balance with how generous they'd all be - but since the puppets do, that was misguided on my part. Resolved.

As far as the minibosses ammo goes, I don't know what to tell you on that one - they're calling the ammo dropper actor that all reelism enemies use. If there's a problem with it in the boss waves, that's a reelism 2 bug to my awareness - I don't think I can fix it.

Likewise, with the Jerk behavior in Discord, I'm not sure I can fix that, either. I don't know what's going on there, nor what I'd need to do to resolve it. If someone more knowledgable on maps or whatever can figure out what's happening, please help.

As far as damage goes, turns out the pigs weren't calling upon their weaker laser blasters, so that's fixed - and as for the maulotaur, I tried to make a weaker version of the ground attack, but nothing I did stuck - so i've removed their ground attack. They only have the five projectile swing and melee. Best I can do.

With what I can do, i've done some tweaks, it's somewhat updated, and there's a preview of an upcoming boss reel in the mid-boss crisis.

[BouncyTEM]

New version!

New enemy reel - terminators are now around to give you problems.

New bosses - it seems the pigs have really had it with you, and called in the LARD's best of the best...

New weapon, in the blue magic reel...seems you can nab the Terminator's Phased Plasma Rifle for yourself, too.

[BouncyTEM]

New-ish version! Minor stat tweaks to the terminators, a hacky fix to minibosses not dropping ammo [now there's a chance they'll accidentally drop double ammo instead, but I find this acceptable - they always drop ammo no matter what, at least], a new friend in Town to offer some aid, and Corvus has additional goodies for you...

[Kinsie]

New version's great! Very impressed by how well everything's integrated, to the point of new Town NPCs. I should... probably find a way to make that easier for people to do.

[MrQBear]

Hello! Someone shared this mod with me, and I was excited to see some things added to Reelism 2!
But the reason why I went to the trouble of making an account and everything was because I got a crash after only a couple games.


I do not know exactly what kind of information you might need, so I'll just drop this here first.

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VM execution aborted: tried to read from address zero. In function parameter other
Called from Splot_Yeti.StateFunction.11 at reelism2_v1.2.pk3:actors/monsters/splot_yeti.zsc, line 90
Called from Splot_Monster.Tick at reelism2_v1.2.pk3:actors/monsters/splot_core.zsc, line 446
Called from state Splot_Yeti.11 in Splot_Yeti
Called from Thinker.Tick [Native]

All I can really add is that I was on Astrolab X, had a few Yeti's left over from a previous reel, and the current round reels were
Birthday Party
NRG
Pig Revolt

and the crash happened while on the Carnage Report / post death screen.

This is all really cool, even if it makes me aware that I am very bad at avoiding damage.
Sorry my first post was a bug/crash report.

[BouncyTEM]

That's...odd, actually - my mod hasn't altered the Yetis or the core monsters in any way, so, to my knowledge, my mod shouldn't have caused that? I'm honestly not sure what caused that crash! Still appreciate you mentioning it, though.

[MrQBear]

That was admittedly one of the thing that gave me pause. I couldn't really say that it was somehow caused directly by the mod, so I wasn't sure where this was supposed to go. I'm just used to the time honored tradition of "If it broke, and you were running a mod, check the mod first."

That said, hours after making that post I realized that the first thing I should have done was just play a ton of games and tried to recreate my own dang crash error.

[Kinsie]

Fixed in the next version of the core mod. Thanks for reporting, albeit in a roundabout manner!

[BouncyTEM]

Neeew version!

Hammer of Retribution, Sluggun, Railgun and Aeromancer Wand all have tomed fire modes, now.

There's also a new reel - Aegis.
Straightforward and simple - half damage taken.