TDBots Mk2 - v1 (11/05/2022)

[TDRR]

and the error also calls you a moron

It's strangely hilarious seeing someone else say it, lol

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TDBOTS_RA_WEAPONS = "AutoShotgun;ExplosiveLauncher;AltSuperShotgun;PlasmaGun;OldBFG9000;PreciseChaingun";
TDBOTS_RA_AMMO = "Clip;Shell;RocketAmmo;Cell";

Very strange this didn't work for you. That's a perfectly legal list.
Oh wait, of course. It's broken because I haven't tested it in ages, and forgot to do so after switching to BCS. Tested with DUBG and yup, same issue. Need to correct this when I get the chance.

EDIT: I've also realized that this isn't really the right way to do Rocket Arena. All the pickups still remain on the map, but unfortunately there's no way to remove them universally at the moment with Zandronum compatiblity (well, with 3.1's spawn event it's possible to remove all ammo and armor items from the map, but that locks that feature to Zandronum, and has unnecessary overhead all the time from executing the event script, plus weapons and all other pickups will still remain).

[yum13241]

Like it worked, but it would lag my GZDoom/Zandronum to near death and spams errors in the console and some sort of runaway script gets terminated about setting up bots.

[TDRR]

I'm on GZDOOM v4.5.0 and the bots are struggling against targets on a different height level than themselves. Even on Entryway, they strafe around the starter staircase missing every shot until the zombies get on the same height as the bot. The bots can't kill anybody if they are higher or lower, even by a small margin like the first staircase of entryway. Through coop spy, I saw what the bot could see, and it would aim off-target or down at the floor instead of at the enemy. The bot did fine when fighting the imps in the hallway since they were on the same height, but in the next room with the higher platform, the bot couldn't kill the zombies up there no matter what weapon they spawned with. It happens in DM, too, but strangely enough when I enable the "Player is a TD bot" setting" and restart the map to let a bot control my character, the aim is perfectly normal and the bot aim was perfect regardless of height level. I changed every setting I could, including disabling their AI, but nothing improved their accuracy, only tested using the bots on Doom 2 with no other modifications made.

After some more investigation, I'm happy and also really frustrated to point out that this is not a TDBots bug. It happens without any mods loaded, so it's merely a result of the ZCajun bots not being updated at all since eons ago.
I'm happy because it's not my fault. Frustrated because... I can't really fix it AFAIK. The FaceTarget method has been redone for v31, and I have a lot more control over it, but unfortunately no matter what I do, I just can't get them to aim properly.

Sorry to say, but don't expect a fix for this, um... ever. I doubt I can do anything about it, and if I were to report it, it still won't get fixed because the ZCajun bots are old and unsupported. I'm going to ask anyway- but don't get your hopes up.
Oh yeah and in v31 it's fixed for Zandronum and bots can aim up/down normally there. At least there I got BotScript to help workaround issues with that bot system. In GZDoom? I'm screwed.

Added a note about this to the main post. I'll make it clear that GZDoom is practically unsupported now, too many issues I can't fix make supporting it a wasted effort.
I'll keep it "working" as in you can spawn the bots and they'll do their thing, but expect them to be extremely stupid.

Like it worked, but it would lag my GZDoom/Zandronum to near death and spams errors in the console and some sort of runaway script gets terminated about setting up bots.

Yeah it's not working, really. Ammo is broken this way at least, but it's now fixed for v31.

[doomfan]

With all due respect to the GZDoom team, TDBot obviously works better on Zandronum.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Timeline_of_s ... t_releases

[yum13241]

Zandronum is nothing but an ancient GZDoom build with Client-Server MP lmao

[Rachael]

Please no "source port wars" here. Neither is truly better than the other, they just both have features the other doesn't have.

[Redneckerz]

Zandronum is nothing but an ancient GZDoom build with Client-Server MP lmao

That would be a severe misrepresentation of what Zandronum actually does behind the wheels, but i digress.

[Gustavo6046]

Yeah, both have their own purpose and are best fit for some circumstances. Every Doom sourceport has a purpose.

Except Doom95, which just unanimously sucks.... but is still important in the historical sense, so!

[LowEndPCGamer100]

Loving this bot mod as of late, using with zandro and custom maps and having a blast. Hope this gets another update someday.

[Declan210]

Loving this bot mod as of late, using with zandro and custom maps and having a blast. Hope this gets another update someday.

I aggre I've been using it for a few months now only thing I would want would be some AI improvements

[TDRR]

It's been 4 months since v30! Really sorry about that, guys.

I'm going to give you all a sneak peek of the complete overhaul coming up very soon, I haven't had much chance to work on it but I think it's currently in a good enough state for a preview build, only need to iron out a couple online bugs.
I'll include some small enhancements to their AI in this build.
.

[Ferretmanjcdenton]

Updated! This update packs a good bunch of stuff. Pretty suprising getting from nothing at all to this version in just 2 days!

The bots are now REALLY good at Deathmatch, and quite good at Co-op.

Download link in the OP!

Hey there ..would there be any way to implement an ai script giving bots the ability to use vehicles (I mean the map 'vehicular combat demo')

I am dreaming of a mobile battlefield version playable in single player ..
I mean the conquest matches as an example.. Not the campaign..

2 teams having set amount of tickets and fighting in a big Map ...

Would that be possible ?

[TDRR]

I guess it could be done, but more like adding a custom bot state for that and having the mod (or a patch- but I want to phase them out as much as possible) implement the actual functionality for it, as it's too specific to add into the TDBots themselves.

It's a possibility, maybe I'll give it a try myself, later on.

[Declan210]

It's been 4 months since v30! Really sorry about that, guys.

I'm going to give you all a sneak peek of the complete overhaul coming up very soon, I haven't had much chance to work on it but I think it's currently in a good enough state for a preview build, only need to iron out a couple online bugs.
I'll include some small enhancements to their AI in this build.
.

it's good to know your still working on this AI in game as old as this cant be easy to program

[TDRR]

Sorry to keep y'all waiting, but hopefully this preview build makes up for it.
It's here, the "sneak peek" of the TDBots Mk2, an almost total rewrite. Now with 100% more mod compatibility out of the box, more aiming up and down, and other great changes. This one is a bit big, but I'd really recommend giving the changelog a read!

Oh, and there's 100% less GZDoom compatibility here, it's officially now a Zandronum bot only.
v30 will stay there for anyone who (for some reason) wants to put up with the buggy mess that is using any bots in modern GZDoom (which is, again, a bug with the port, not the TDBots, and nothing can be done from my side). They should work decently in ZDoom, and older L/GZDoom releases, however.

Some features are currently missing. Remember this is a preview, and mostly the essential things are reimplemented!

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-Major re-do and cleanup. Almost all of the bot AI is handled via BCS, and
DECORATE has been reduced to a merely auxiliary role. The code is a lot
cleaner and shorter, and MUCH easier to improve and expand.

-QC:DE maps addon updated. Now almost all of the maps are in! (except a couple
FFA maps that wouldn't ever play well with bots)

-Bots can now play almost anything, even DEHACKED mods. They can fire essentially any
weapon, and so the built-in IWAD compatibility weapon replacements are now
gone, as they're unnecessary and simply cause issues.

-Bots can now aim up and down! Yes, finally!

-Bots now get the EXPLOSIVE and MELEE weapon flags from the actual weapon actor.
This should allow them to always use weapons mostly correctly.
Note that due to an implementation detail in ZDoom itself, DEHACKED weapons
can't have this (I'll add a fallback later).

-Mod support can now be trivially integrated into the TDBots themselves, without
requiring explicit support from the mod. Currently weapon lists are defined
bot-side, and certain things like allowing quickswitching are part of this.
MM8BDM is the only mod with this kind of support, with more mods and other
features to hopefully be added in the future.

-Bots can now jump without special nodes! If a ledge is within jumping height,
bots will jump up to reach it, while roaming or following map-placed nodes.
The jump height and calculations are accurate to the playerclass they're
using, and jumping is only done if the server flags allow it.

-When firing at a target, bots may choose to close in (while also keeping a
reasonable distance), or just continue firing from their current spot.

-Bots in competitive modes will occassionally decide to chase down their target
if it goes out of sight instead of immediately letting it go.

-When following a player in cooperative modes, bots will keep a distance of 96
units to allow walking around more easily.

-botskill is the CVAR to adjust bot aiming accuracy now, ranging from 0-4, and
works much better and is more flexible than the old easy mode.

-Bots can now respawn and join Duel games, among other things, without changing
any CVARs. (you're no longer forced to respawn if the TDBots are loaded!)

-Weapon lists are now in BCS arrays. Currently LANGUAGE lists aren't parsed, but
I'll re-add that in the future.

-The handful of remaining DECORATE code is better organized into separate files.

-New DEBUG_MODE define in BCS, to turn on some extra debug prints and logs.

-Many, many bugs have been fixed as a result of the rewrite.
Among those would be bots not switching away when their weapon is out of
ammo, but also in general janky weapon usage is corrected.

-Bots no longer chat online. Or well, they never did, logs don't show up to the
clients, only the server console, but you could hear their chat sound.
Of course, chat is still functional offline.

-A warning is now shown if competitive modes are attempted to be played with a
bot while online. Offline still works as usual, and cooperative modes still
work perfectly online.

-GZDoom compatibility is, officially, gone. Sorry guys, but that most certainly
[Won't change] at this point. It holds back improvement and makes mod compat
a bigger issue than it should be on top of the ZCajun bots being irreparably
broken (mod-side, that is), so that's just a [No]. :^)
(and now a warning is shown when loading the TDBots in GZDoom)

Go grab it in the first post!