[0.5A Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom and Heretic
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom, kinda
Looks superb. That weapon sprite and mostly everything 'somehow' matches with doom graphic. It looks promising already!
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom, kinda
Yeah, I like how it blends well with the Doom stuff. I've heard a lot of people would actually like Chasm more than Quake, except the maps aren't as good.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom, kinda
I'm one of those people. I like Quake and have respect for it for its technical achievement, but the fact being is that it is just DOOM sprayed with a gothic/medieval paint job. Never fond either the weapons or enemies all that creative or original (say for one or two), the levels on the other hand were mostly well done.-Ghost- wrote:Yeah, I like how it blends well with the Doom stuff. I've heard a lot of people would actually like Chasm more than Quake, except the maps aren't as good.
I never could quite put my finger on why I found Chasm so appealing. I think it is the overall style and the creative and very detailed enemies.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom, kinda
I've always been in the same boat too. I can appreciate Quake for all that it's done, but I've never liked the weapons or enemies, it's mostly been the levels and music that I've been drawn to. Other than that it's kind of a blander Doom for me.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens)
New screens. After spending the better part of 4 days extracting, converting, porting and coding the majority of 3D enemies and objects into GZDoom, the premise of this mod has been changed a lot aha.
Since the majority of Chasm enemies are melee-only, I had to get super creative. With some skin manips, there's a few enemy variations and certain enemies have new attacks. For example, the 'undead' vikings will lob their shields at you relentlessly, zombies will vomit toxic gas at you, etc. Had to get creative to in order to replace the enemies properly, while maintaining a theme. Just gotta mess around with MENUDEFs and GLDEFS and figure out what to do with the Pain Elemental/Lost Souls and it'll be good to go.
Spoiler: ScreensMassive, massive thanks to HAL9000 for helping me out with this.
Since the majority of Chasm enemies are melee-only, I had to get super creative. With some skin manips, there's a few enemy variations and certain enemies have new attacks. For example, the 'undead' vikings will lob their shields at you relentlessly, zombies will vomit toxic gas at you, etc. Had to get creative to in order to replace the enemies properly, while maintaining a theme. Just gotta mess around with MENUDEFs and GLDEFS and figure out what to do with the Pain Elemental/Lost Souls and it'll be good to go.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens, pg.2)
I just noticed that Strange Aeons uses quite a bit from Chasm: The Rift and would probably go pretty damn well with this mod if you did a "patch", like with High Noon Drifter.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens, pg.2)
Well yeah, that's a thing. Maybe this mod should be compatible with certain mods like High Noon Drifter, Trailblazer or maybe Guncaster.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens, pg.2)
Yeah I fully intend on making an extra monster-only version, in case peeps wanna play em' with weapon mods.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens)
It was nothing, I love Chasm, I'm glad I could help!!!Pandut wrote: Massive, massive thanks to HAL9000 for helping me out with this.
Will you use 3d models for weapons, pickups, items, decorations etc??
Also, will you use Monster variations (with different skins) for different abilities = Like the skeleton multi skin example I gave to you?
So that you can have for example only Melee Skeleton, Ranged Skeleton, and Ranged & Melee Skeleton Combined variations, each one having different stats,abilities and different skins.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens)
Yesss. The grand majority of pickups and items are in 3D now, save for powerups and armor/health bonuses. Still gotta figure those out.HAL9000 wrote:It was nothing, I love Chasm, I'm glad I could help!!!Pandut wrote: Massive, massive thanks to HAL9000 for helping me out with this.
Will you use 3d models for weapons, pickups, items, decorations etc??
Also, will you use Monster variations (with different skins) for different abilities = Like the skeleton multi skin example I gave to you?
So that you can have for example only Melee Skeleton, Ranged Skeleton, and Ranged & Melee Skeleton Combined variations, each one having different stats,abilities and different skins.
There's a few Grunt variants, a green one with a typical rifle, an orange-grey one with a shotgun and a black-darkgreen one with an assault rifle. These guys will commonly spawn alongside stronger jetpack and rocket-launcher toting grunts. The Skeletons replace the Baron of Hells, one with a side-swinging multi-projectile attack (like the Quake 1 deathknight) and the red variant you sent me with a powerful single-projectile attack. All for more flavor and variety.
With the help of zscript, Pinky Demons and Imps have been replaced by 3 enemy types, and each map will randomly cycle one of these enemies so that every map there's the chance of running into a new enemy.
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Re: [WIP] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (New screens, pg.2)
That's good that you're adapting the mod better for Doom. For me, the best porting mods are the ones that still do their own spin on things instead of just a 1:1 port of a game, flaws and all.
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Re: [Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (V0.1 in OP)
V0.1 is up and ready in the OP. It's been years since I publicly uploaded something so hopefully I did it right :'D.
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Re: [0.1 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)
So I can safely say that Chasm: The Rift is one of the most underrated FPSes of the 90s, as its gunplay is excellent and its graphics somehow managed to be better than Quake 1.
So it was really worth it to see something like this ported over to Doom, and I can already tell that this mod is excellent.
However, I did manage to catch a couple of issues, which I managed to capture most of in one screenshot:
The HUD seems to be having issues with screen formatting unless it's in something like 320x200.
Additionally, the rifle appears to clip when walking and when pulling it out for the first time.
Lastly, there seem to be additional "monster" actors spawned that can't be affected in any way, not even with the "kill monsters" command.
Other than that, everything else is buttery smooth and I can't wait to see what's planned for future versions!
So it was really worth it to see something like this ported over to Doom, and I can already tell that this mod is excellent.
However, I did manage to catch a couple of issues, which I managed to capture most of in one screenshot:
The HUD seems to be having issues with screen formatting unless it's in something like 320x200.
Additionally, the rifle appears to clip when walking and when pulling it out for the first time.
Lastly, there seem to be additional "monster" actors spawned that can't be affected in any way, not even with the "kill monsters" command.
Other than that, everything else is buttery smooth and I can't wait to see what's planned for future versions!
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Re: [0.1 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)
Thanks! For the HUD, it's actually the first one I've coded myself haha. I think it's a ScaleFactor issue so I made a few quick changes and I think it should be okay now. Fixed up the Rifle's offsets too, still figuring out the weird floating thing on first pull out.
EDIT: Newest version on op
EDIT: Newest version on op
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Re: [0.1a Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)
I just played entire Doom2 with Zrift.....and it's AWESOME, Good job on the mod!!
Some Suggestions:
Replace Lost souls with new (&new skin) Bat variants
Replace Pain Elemental with new (& new skin) Phantom variant (as a bat summoner)
Add Poison Scorpion variation to the Monster rooster.
Replace Doomguy Player with Chasm Player
Bugs:
-Alpha Channel on Some Models (Sphinx Eyes, etc)
-Vulcan Gun Ammo belt animation
-Vulcan Gun Pickup Skin Alpha & mesh bleed
Other than that 10/10, Would Rip & Tear in Chasm again
Some Suggestions:
Replace Lost souls with new (&new skin) Bat variants
Replace Pain Elemental with new (& new skin) Phantom variant (as a bat summoner)
Add Poison Scorpion variation to the Monster rooster.
Replace Doomguy Player with Chasm Player
Bugs:
-Alpha Channel on Some Models (Sphinx Eyes, etc)
-Vulcan Gun Ammo belt animation
-Vulcan Gun Pickup Skin Alpha & mesh bleed
Other than that 10/10, Would Rip & Tear in Chasm again
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