Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Cyanide » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:40 pm

Someone64 wrote:I personally would like the change in the spawning system to prioritize map compatibility. The themes never even triggered that often for me and when they did, it wasn't too interesting so I'd be indifferent to their removal.


Which maps are we talking about? Way back when I first released the mod, I split off the SS Wolfenstein and Keen variants to seperate files, in order to have greater map compatibility. But maps that change Imps or other monsters are not gonna be compatible.

Compatibility with scripted events is beyond my abilities. :(

EDIT: Also, thanks for the feedback! I forget to mention that too often.
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby ate0ate » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:03 am

The whole theme thing is a nice feature but it's not important enough to the actual gameplay for me to feel very strongly about it going. If it makes things significantly easier for you to just cut it out entirely then you have my support. I would definitely prefer to see you enjoy working on/adding things to the mod easily rather than get a headache just thinking about all the complications of adding things. A happy mod maker makes for happy mod players:)
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Cyanide » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:26 am

ate0ate wrote:The whole theme thing is a nice feature but it's not important enough to the actual gameplay for me to feel very strongly about it going. If it makes things significantly easier for you to just cut it out entirely then you have my support. I would definitely prefer to see you enjoy working on/adding things to the mod easily rather than get a headache just thinking about all the complications of adding things. A happy mod maker makes for happy mod players:)


Thanks for the feedback! It seems that is the way to go. :)
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby MrPyrite » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:52 am

Wish I was good at scripting, otherwise I would love to have a DoomRL Arsenal compatibility patch.
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Cyanide » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:59 pm

MrPyrite wrote:Wish I was good at scripting, otherwise I would love to have a DoomRL Arsenal compatibility patch.


Shades should be compatible with DoomRL Arsenal. Did you run into any issues?
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby eharper256 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:51 pm

Cyanide wrote:
ate0ate wrote:The whole theme thing is a nice feature but it's not important enough to the actual gameplay for me to feel very strongly about it going. If it makes things significantly easier for you to just cut it out entirely then you have my support. I would definitely prefer to see you enjoy working on/adding things to the mod easily rather than get a headache just thinking about all the complications of adding things. A happy mod maker makes for happy mod players:)


Thanks for the feedback! It seems that is the way to go. :)

I'd concur, as a player of Chaos Mode, more monsters is better than more themes. XD
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Cyanide » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:40 am

I'm starting to see a patern here... :wink:
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Whoah » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:13 pm

I personally really like the themes. Although I'd like to see some more...creative enemy replacements. Like a vaguely Wolfenstein 3D theme, with various nazis replacing the default demons
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby SimonTheDigger » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:57 am

Would it be possible to use a gore mod like Ketchup with this, or would it be incompatible due to every enemy variant needing its own unique death sprites?
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby dljosef » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:51 am

I don't mind the themes vanishing if more enemy variety's gonna be involved.
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby GAA1992 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:09 am

By removing themes does the author mean removing the "one set of enemies per stage"?
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby dljosef » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:37 am

GAA1992 wrote:By removing themes does the author mean removing the "one set of enemies per stage"?


I highly doubt that "one set of enemies per stage" thing's going away.
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Cyanide » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:40 am

SimonTheDigger wrote:Would it be possible to use a gore mod like Ketchup with this, or would it be incompatible due to every enemy variant needing its own unique death sprites?

I don't know the inner workings of Ketchup. If it add's extra sprites to the existing enemies, it probably also messes around with their decorate. If that's the case then no, it won't work. Droplets should work, though.

GAA1992 wrote:By removing themes does the author mean removing the "one set of enemies per stage"?

The "one set of enemies per stage" is never going to be removed. :) It's the main purpose of the mod.
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby Cyanide » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:59 am

Whoah wrote:I personally really like the themes. Although I'd like to see some more...creative enemy replacements. Like a vaguely Wolfenstein 3D theme, with various nazis replacing the default demons


Hmmm. I could probably turn on an option to incorporate nazi-variants into zombie-variants and chaingunner-variants. I'm not that well versed in the Wolfenstein bestiary to know if any other replacements would work. Are there any wolfenstein enemies that fire other stuff that hitscans? And do they have the necesary rotation sprites?

That will take some time to research.
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Re: Shades of Doom v1.2 - More, more, more!!! (05/20/18)

Postby GAA1992 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:52 am

I don't want to speak by wildweasel and horrormovieguy, but Bratwurst and WW-Nazis have the most consistent sets. Kriegsland also have many variants of nazis, although not inclined to the almost cartoonish Wolf3D style.
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