The status of ZDoom 2.0.97

[Belial]

I like jDoom models. Wouldn't want to see them in ZDoom though.

That, and when I played with the models I was too big to get the shotgun secret in the first map of Doom 2...

Nonsense.

@justin: You might want to check such BS yourself before bashing the authors of jDoom.

[justin024]

I like jDoom models. Wouldn't want to see them in ZDoom though.

That, and when I played with the models I was too big to get the shotgun secret in the first map of Doom 2...

Nonsense.

@justin: You might want to check such BS yourself before bashing the authors of jDoom.

I just figured that people know what they're talking about because I usually do.

[Belial]

Fair enough. But it would be quite an obvious bug if what RabidZombie said was true, wouldn't it?

@RabidZombie: I have no idea how the hell you managed to get stuck there. Works for me in 1.8.6 with both model packs (the old one and jDRP).

[Enjay]

Models are no answer to anything regarding Doom.

I dunno, I'm not a fan of them for enemies, but for some cunning pieces of architecture, or some placeable decorations I think they look good. Pillars and columns can work well for example and will allow shapes that can't be done with lines and sectors.

As an example of a game that used models and sprites, the original Dark Forces managed to make (very) limited use of models in places where the game architecture simply couldn't do what they wanted.

[RabidZombie]

Fair enough. But it would be quite an obvious bug if what RabidZombie said was true, wouldn't it?

@RabidZombie: I have no idea how the hell you managed to get stuck there. Works for me in 1.8.6 with both model packs (the old one and jDRP).

I can't replicate it. Not only I lost my jDoom, I don't know what version it was... (an old one, from before I disappeared)

[Scuba Steve]

So if models are my answer... does that mean you're going to create a complete model set of every single sprite replacement in every pwad ever made for me? Thanks, I'll expect it on my HD by the time of ZDoom's next release.

[Skunk]

Different strokes for different folks. That's all I'm gunna say on the subject. (LOL HE SAID STROKE)

[justin024]

I dunno, I'm not a fan of them for enemies, but for some cunning pieces of architecture, or some placeable decorations I think they look good. Pillars and columns can work well for example and will allow shapes that can't be done with lines and sectors.

I like that idea. I never really thought about using models for scenery.

[Naitguolf]

Daggerfall used models too for decoration, and worked pretty well.

[BetaSword]

Look at Sitters' wads for Jdoom. He makes excessive use of models for decoration, and in most cases, it seems to work quite well.

[NiGHTMARE]

Apparently nowhere near enough people have played Zanzan.

[Graf Zahl]

Isn't that the WAD fort the old ZDoomGL that crashes all the time so you can't play with it?

[Siggi]

I managed, after alot of effort, to get Zanzan to work, but I didn't think much of it.

@Graf Zahl- indeed it is

[Scuba Steve]

ZanZan would be phenomenal if ZDoomgl didn't suck.

[NiGHTMARE]

The point was Zanzan used a couple of models for 3D architecture long before sitters came along. The fact hardly anyone noticed this just shows how well they were used .