Zenimax v DoomRL

[4thcharacter]

I'm actually having some thoughts of archiving the wiki if anything goes wrong and the whole site gets taken down but as of now I don't know where to start. Maybe I'll start with the weapons, armor, assemblies and monsters.

You can archive the entire wiki automatically with this. (No programming knowledge is required -- take my word for it )

Distributed backups of community sites are a good idea anyway, lawyers being only one of many things that can go wrong.

Since DooMRL's website also has some things other than the wiki, will this still work with no problems?

Also, I've used archive.is on some pages. Is that archiving site good enough or am I going to have to find something better?

[unRyker]

I just right-clicked and pressed save on everything, even the webpages (it looks horrendous) and I have this ugly archive file.


archive.is only screenshots what the webppage looks like including other services requested by the site to make it remain pretty, but it doesn't actively host things like Downloads or other links inside that archived page obviously, so we'd want a mirror containing all downloads to DoomRL just to be safe.

[Rachael]

Instead of hounding the living hell out of the DoomRL server with download requests, maybe contact the hosts and see if they will offer backups on DropBox or something before they are given a final C&D order? (The latter is not likely though, if they are willing to comply with Zenimax's demands, which do not seem to be too obtrusive)

[Doomguy5th]

Well, I was just peacefully browsing Youtube, then I got this notification. Link leads to here.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/n ... own-notice

[wildweasel]

....Well, I don't think I'm going to wait around. =/

[Caligari87]

Was just about to post my own infuriated screenshot. I hate ModDB. I will NEVER support anything that site does, no ever allow my work to be uploaded there. Piece of shit.

[wildweasel]

Besides that, I doubt we can expect much in the realm of journalistic integrity from the Brutal Doom page.

[Rachael]

(A bit off-topic, sorry) Funny enough, you get more journalistic integrity from comedy shows nowadays than actual news shows.

The media's turned to shit in the past couple of decades.

I prefer to get my news internationally - at least a news source that isn't here has a higher chance of being a bit more unbiased.

[Doomguy5th]

A bit surprised, a majority of the Brutal Doom Facebook group actually hates ZeniMax for doing such. I thought they would endorse and love them for some odd reason.

[Rachael]

Why surprised?

If ZeniMax starts taking tighter control of their copyrights, Brutal Doom is one of the bigger "threats" that would be dealt with. So of course they're going to take the fans/modders' side - being modders themselves.

[Gez]

Also people love to shit on game companies when they do lawyerly stuff, even when it turns out it's actually quite reasonable and not a complete joykill. For a start, it's not a takedown notice.

[Zanieon]

Gez, this is what i have been saying to people in my Facebook and the D4D discord group, it seems they are bothered with the site itself and probably the logo only since DoomRL works under own assets based on Doom, which Freedoom also takes advantage and yet never recieved a single note from anyone for like 20 years.

ZeniMax owns id Software for 6 years now, and in those 6 years i've seen them only make one true C&D strike from that shitty Unreal Engine 4 remakes of Doom 2 because besides that, they left everything as is.

Basically, this is mostly misinterpretation of their email which is leading to unecessary drama, 3 of the 5 things they mentioned leads to the same thing, meta tag, keyword and concealed text, this refers to the site and about media, they probably refers to the logo, nothing else, by the way if this pisses off ZeniMax somehow, they will really show the reason for that drama, and personally i don't want ZeniMax to become a Nintendo 2.

This reminds me in the beggning of the year, Trek Industries did a similar drama over Activision when the latter requested Valve to remove Orion from Steam without warning, many fans of the game became mad with that and started bash Activision, but in the end they were right, Trek was using assets from CoD: MW3 in their game, the case is not the same, but certainly the drama is.

[Rachael]

It's not rocket science. Corporations, by their very nature, are more powerful than all but the wealthiest of individual people, and are hugely impersonable. There's always going to be a divide between high-level executives and everyone else.

And while Gearbox certainly isn't Zenimax, the things that Randy Pitchford does still does not reflect well on any other corporation - because it is just an example of abuse of power that corporations are capable of. That whole situation just amplified people's distrust towards Gearbox - and for that matter - ANY corporation whatsoever. It doesn't matter that Gearbox isn't Zenimax - the abuse of power will still reflect badly because of what "they" are, not who they are.

[Kinsie]

The site's name and logo have been changed:



So, that's sorted, then.

[Scripten]

Honestly, I think the new logo is a lot better than the original anyway.