MetaDoom v7.1 "Ghost" - This Mod Has Moved. See OP for details.

[Captain J]

Serious question: Is there a forum bug that makes this thread appear as Kyle's Doom RPG thread?

Nope, it doesn't happens to me. Visually nor something.

[shotfan]

a gun that is basically a fire hose, only firing its stream of water at steel-cutting speeds.

I uh... Check the attachment. :T I had to. I literally went into Paint and (unfortunently) got serious with this and put like 2 hours into it. I am for hire, Kinsie! (I know you won't want this. ) I just basically replaced the first frame of the shotgun, and I am half tempted into making the muzzleflash a water spray.

Actually, if you want to make a waterthrower in Doom, then I would advise to use Rocket Launcher sprite as a base

and i hope that hose version can be mixed with mobile version very well!

Serious question: Is there a forum bug that makes this thread appear as Kyle's Doom RPG thread?

Not for me. Right now, there is Hideous Destructor just below MetaDoom, and HD's thread has a similar thumbnail to Kyle's Doom RPG one. But the latter is nowhere to be seen at the first page of Projects.

[Combine_Kegan]

alternative weapons, huh Kinsie? I'm sure you want to keep those a surprise but I'm curious as to what those could be, besides the holy water pistol of course.

[Kinsie]

alternative weapons, huh Kinsie? I'm sure you want to keep those a surprise but I'm curious as to what those could be, besides the holy water pistol of course.

Some stuff from the mobile games, some of the multiplayer/Snapmap only stuff from the new game, and a few cuts from Doom 3 and 64. And the SSG in Doom 1, because fuck balance.

...oh yeah, I added a way for spawners to detect if the user is playing a Doom 1 episode or NRFTL today. Ideally, this means I can tweak the whens and hows of weapons and items showing up for these shorter experiences so the content ramp-up isn't suddenly cut short by the player finishing level 8 and ending the episode. (Thanks to Murb for helping me with the technical side of that!)



I'd like to do some deeper cuts from prototypes and alphas and such, but this depends partially on whether good art can be sourced for them and, most importantly, if I can come up with some unique and interesting gameplay mechanics that aren't too close to existing content. Like I said earlier, nobody really wants their inventory flooded with a bunch of functionally identical weapons, and that goes for monsters too.

[Captain J]

Agreed with it is unnecessary to have many weapons and monsters. I just hope there's various yet enough of them.

So... I wish you a good luck!

[Gez]

Near-identical monsters is less of a problem IMO if the monster variants don't try to look like they're something different. Like, regular shotgun guy, shotgun guy with an eyepatch, shotgun guy with green hair, shotgun guy with a dark blue shirt, left-handed shotgun guy, okay, all these monsters look like a shotgun guy and as long as they behave just like a shotgun guy then it's just some visual flourish. (Of course it's not necessarily something you want your mod to provide.) If they do behave differently, though, there's a problem. KDIZD has this issue with three different types of dark imps that have different behaviors.

On the other hand, pinky demon, and translucent blue pinky demon with huge horns and cyber arms on a hoverboard, well then it looks like the variant ought to be something different and if it just behaves like a regular pinky demon there's a problem.



On a different topic, how does the episodic structure detection works?

[Kinsie]

On a different topic, how does the episodic structure detection works?

It checks the first few characters of the map lump name for things like "E1" or "LEVEL". If it doesn't fit any of those, it's assumed to be a Doom 2-style 32-level set. Not perfect, but it doesn't touch MAPINFO so it won't break anything in custom WADs.

I'll probably add a CVAR that removes all restrictions and enables all variations right off the bat for masochists, content locusts and single-level WADs.

[SoulCircle]

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a gun that is basically a fire hose, only firing its stream of water at steel-cutting speeds.

I uh... Check the attachment. :T I had to. I literally went into Paint and (unfortunently) got serious with this and put like 2 hours into it. I am for hire, Kinsie! (I know you won't want this. ) I just basically replaced the first frame of the shotgun, and I am half tempted into making the muzzleflash a water spray.

what made you think this was a good idea to post here

god i hope school holidays end soon

Well... What is your problem with me Kinsie? I was throwing something at what someone said about YOUR mod. Mien gott. Whatever, I am still excited for the mod. Keep up the good work.

PS: There was no reason to get upset. This time it wasn't off-topic and yet you make it seem that I've done wrong. If it's such a big problem, ignore it like you do my constructive comments.

[JimpArgon]

Well... What is your problem with me Kinsie? I was throwing something at what someone said about YOUR mod. Mien gott.

It's probably your posting style... I'm guessing you are like 13 - 16 years old based on how you post. Maybe he's annoyed at the way you post things. Like on page 12 between you and rabid marine or saying you are for hire and suggesting Kinsie hire you for sprite work on his mod.

PS: There was no reason to get upset. This time it wasn't off-topic and yet you make it seem that I've done wrong. If it's such a big problem, ignore it like you do my constructive comments.

He's allowed to have his own opinions as are you. Don't like it? Then I suggest not posting in his WIP thread. Or take it up with him in a PM.

*edit* I just checked your profile after posting this. You are 15. So I was right about the age thing.

[Dr_Cosmobyte]

Please, guys. Is this really necessary? Let's keep on the thread.

[wildweasel]

*edit* I just checked your profile after posting this. You are 15. So I was right about the age thing.

Could you not, please?

what made you think this was a good idea to post here

god i hope school holidays end soon

Could you not, please?

Actually, could everybody just.....not. Thank you.

[SoulCircle]

Thank you Weasel... Could you possibly remove my off-topic posts on page 12? I know I did wrong, I was told by you, I apologized profusely and everyone will keep going back to it if it's still there.

OK! So, how's progress coming, Kins? Has the basic polish/work on the base monsters start yet? Because that's when the REAL fun begins. I truly cannot wait to see the result of your hardship.

*edit* I just checked your profile after posting this. You are 15. So I was right about the age thing.

Wow. Thank you for trying to start something and defaulting me to a type FOR MY AGE. I try to keep cool when such things rise but, oh my god, you've gotten under my skin. Please refrain from this in the future. I am not mad, just... No.

[rabid marine]

Man, all this drama is killing me. How about we all retreat to this forum and relax for a day or two?

[Captain J]

Could you not, please?

Actually, could everybody just.....not. Thank you.

I'm just trying to be positive here, not sarcastic!

Anyway, please, go on. Without sarcasm or rudeness this time, of course.

[SoulCircle]

You're OK Captain.

Kins, I am slightly surprised you aren't adding anything like a flame/ice thrower... It'd be a neat weapon replacement for something like the Rocket Launcher or Plasma rifle. (Or at least I'd think it would be.)

EDIT: Not Doom-y in any way. Ignore me please.