DUMP Episode 3: BFG Edition [map + weapons released]

[VICE]

So I just got through that bouncy castle level, and you know what I think?!
I think this needs to be the background music:

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[Thyrork]

Update. 55 / 80.

MAP 28 - TOMB OF HECTIKHAMEN - Action Max
MAP 32 - HYDRAULIC PLANT - SpiritOfDecay
MAP 31 - NOT ANOTHER TECH BASE - ArchXeno
MAP 30 - THIS IS SERIOUS MUM - Deathzor
MAP 29 - THE WEED NUMBER - AbyssWalker

[DavidN]

Racing reviews 60 / 80! (Well... actually 59, because there is no map 51). I'm only going anywhere near as fast as this because I'm procrastinating on a different project.

This batch had some great beginner maps and some really nice concepts!

http://teamouse.net/games/doom/dump3.txt

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MAP51 - There is no map 51
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MAP52 - Broken Shit by ZachBrowder
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Gloomy and atmospheric, not broken at all here The rooms are interesting and the one with all the toggling platforms makes the demons' movement more difficult to predict. I don't have a lot to say about this one, other than that it's a nice map to have chosen for starting a session of map thoughts - really nicely decorated, and a gentle enough challenge.

The only thing that I felt fell short was the boss fight - the giant Mancubus doesn't get the chance to be effective in the room you've given him. My rockets pushed him to the floor, where he just uselessly fired rockets at one of the pipes between him and me while I plasmaed him to finish him off. But you get masses of credit for including a boss that wasn't a Cyberdemon - that's a surprising rarity!

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MAP53 - Weapons Research Lab by Vennobennu
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Okay, let's slaughter some vampires! The floor dropping out at the very start is a nice surprise, opening up the player to a lot more than they expected!

You use tough monsters early on (seeing a Revenant when armed with a pistol is a daunting prospect) but you use them well so that the player isn't overwhelmed, and can use the environment to their advantage. The starting arena is interesting and I can see you experimenting with various different types of environments as you build rooms out, which is great!

The powerups are placed a little strangely, such as the invincibility behind the barons in the caves, which you're likely to encounter after its usefulness has passed. I wouldn't give out the Megasphere so freely, instead separate its bonuses into smaller health and armour pickups throughout the map. Throughout, I found myself suffering a pretty severe shortage of ammunition, so a few more boxes of shells or ammo wouldn't go amiss either.

The slow doors leading to the large room come off as irritating, I don't think you'd lose much by just making those go at the normal speed! The map design is good and varied although a little boxy in places (like the big room I just mentioned). The openable bit at the teleporter leading you to the other side was an inspired secret

Well, this switch might as well be labelled "ASKING FOR IT".

Great boss fight at the end! I was so sure that a Cyberdemon was going to be plonked in like seems to have happened a thousand times on this map pack, but instead you made it a gradually escalating challenge that relied on your ability to manage the monsters before another pack of them were set free. And an appropriate arena to include Archviles in with the pillars to hide behind. That finished the map on a high note!

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MAP54 - Winter in Summer by TehRealSalt
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Lost Vikings

This map looks really good, thanks to using some extended textures and a good sense of detail. When the first door opens the enemies are bottlenecked by the corridor and it's just a slugging match with the pistol - if they were delayed until you got to a more open space that would have made it more challenging. And it's interesting (I'm not sure if good or not!) that the chaingun opens the doors when it's picked up rather than walked over - if you have full ammunition, then you're left with two inexplicably unopenable doors.

Like I said, the rest of the map looks great, though - everything feels good. The ice rink set-piece is unusual - I don't think the imps liked my skating.

And... I think I've broken it! The music stopping and emerging in total darkness, and then nothing happens. I tried it twice. It's a shame because it looks like it would have been good if it had worked!

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MAP55 - The UAC Ocean Base by leodoom85
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Oh, UAC - where would we be without your dubious safety record and fondness for experiments that open up passageways to hell. I love the atmosphere here, helped by the music choice but mostly achieved through some great use of architecture and outdoor scenery - it really feels like a different place from most other maps!

This is thoroughly enjoyable The switch messages give it a fun personality, it isn't overpopulated with monsters, the surprise Archviles were appropriately placed... if I have a complaint it's that it would be nice to have a bit more prompting as to what a switch did, in such an expansive map.

The hell arena at the end felt a lot more generic (yet another sodding Cyberdemon) but that's the only low point of a really creative and well put together map. My favourite so far!

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MAP56 - Hot Water Music by Protester
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Looks nice, obviously an experienced mapper A bug if you fall off the first time - the platform that you take to the high ledge where you're meant to jump to get the red key is a trigger once only!

Bugger me - now THAT's an ambush! That was the most shocking thing I've seen in this pack by far, completely transforming the map in an instant. Spectacularly done

No back wall on the lift that starts you off on the path to the yellow skull key.

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MAP57 - Lambda Base by FloatRand
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Another fantastically detailed map in a more traditional Doom setting than your previous one, but made unique by all the non-standard texturing! It felt kind of ridiculously tough to me, but I was sort of cutting my losses from shortly after the start and running around waking everybody up in the hope that they'd all get rid of each other in a massive infight. I loved the aesthetic, though, of the bright yellow electronics standing out against the dark corroding base.

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MAP58 - Inferno Odyssey by Anonymous
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Always check behind you for the chainsaw

Nice use of textures for the chandelier! The rest of the second room is too big and dull, though, and the routes have long "arms" without much reward that you have to backtrack down to get back to where you started. I think this room needs completely rethought to give the player more interesting routes to the switches that they're aiming for.

In fact, everything seems a bit too big for its own good here - the giant room with the coloured doors, the big box with the stairs just before the red key... the exception is the chapel, which is remarkable for having furniture and arches! If you could make the rest of the map look like anything approaching that, and try to replace the long blank stretches of running through corridors with something more interesting, this would feel a lot better...

The weather today is... chessboard! I don't think the sky is meant to look like that... and you can make the outdoor walls in the graveyard look a lot better by horizontally aligning them ("A" while facing the wall in Doombuilder) - it avoids repeated textures like that.

You've got missing textures on the stairs to the BFG plinth (and I don't know what I did to deserve it! It should be much more of a hidden reward, I feel)

It looks like you've got the basic of mapmaking, though - doors, switches, and even traps like the red key room! For your next map, I would tighten up the spaces a bit (or a lot), think about how to make them look and play in an interesting way, and try to balance the weapons you're giving out with the monsters the player has to use them on - the BFG here was given out too freely and too late in the map for it to be useful.

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MAP59 - Infested Installation by Flipy
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Welcome to Doom mapping! Great start with the view of the building.

The interior is pretty good too - you've got some good decoration. The dark grey metallic room on the east side could have done with some more interesting texturing, but the layout of the room itself was good - you have a good sense of how to make a room interesting with multiple levels, I think.

The route back from the east side could have done with a few more challenges, it's great that you made a different route back instead of having the player retrace his exact steps but it still felt empty.

I like the way you alternate between base and hell environments - a secret cult underneath the building! The super shotgun was well placed on the altar before a fight, and the way that you opened the room up was interesting. I would possibly have made the left switch room more distinct from the right, they feel a little samey and symmetrical as-is.

I also appreciate that you separate the enemies between humanlike and demonlike across the environments, though it has the effect of making the human sections very easy. Perhaps it would help to place some enemies so that they can attack you from the side or behind - anywhere that they're not obvious and easy to pick off when you enter a room

The BFG was given out too freely (although I appreciate it because I hate Pain Elementals) - I would swap the BFG and the plasma rifle so that you have to work for the super-weapon.

Great final room (the human side could have done with a bit more texture love, though) and fantastic beginner's map! I'd love to see more from you

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MAP60 - The Duality by NeuralStunner
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Up until the red door the rooms are interesting-ish, but a bit boxy, with the red key room being the best. The cave is a welcome break from the base scenery by that point, but I was expecting it to be even more interesting - I was anticipating an ambush that never came!

Interesting teleporter...?

Oh my god it's Silent Hill Or Silent Hill if it had a respectable castle aesthetic going on. I'm going to enjoy this. Nice detail with the doors making different noises.

I really love exploring all these environments and seeing how they change.

And we're at the exiiiioooh no we're not.

Bloody Archviles! I'd normally say two is overkill, but I actually managed to get through this fight without dying, so... I don't know. I ran away from the knights in the second round after getting the key.

The plasma gun was far too generous, the map is easily completable without it - I would probably have put that in a very guarded secret!

This is a great concept and I'd love to see more levels like it Maybe adding some more interaction between the two dimensions, with actions in one affecting the other... and I was actually expecting the hell dimension to be even more oppressive. Make the player dread going there but have to do it out of necessity

I was also very surprised at how generous a portion of the map was behind secrets... the entire lower cave section and about half the dark world, with over 100 monsters left unaccounted for when you go for a normal exit. I'm not sure whether this is good or bad, honestly, but it was... unusual.

[DavidN]

Seventy maps done! (Well, 69). But this is the last section of ten - now to do the last few maps in the main cathedral and move on to the secret ones! There were some great beginner maps in here.

http://teamouse.net/games/doom/dump3.txt

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MAP61 - Municipal Well by Flotilla
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The premise of this level is almost identical to a map that I failed to finish for this collection called "Transformtress". In hindsight I'm glad I didn't get far with my own map because this is executed much better than mine The escalation is great, first appearing to be an exploration map with a slight lack of detail but gradually connecting all the areas into the central cylinder before finally opening up to reveal the true arena. And the challenges for each switch around the outside are unique - being suddenly stuck in a sub-area with imps raining fireballs down on you, or desperately trying to navigate a maze while Cacodemons are drifting towards you.

Great concept and well realized!

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MAP62 - Dropoff by CharlieTheGnarly
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Ooh, Super Metroid. Great music for an underground base, though the action doesn't really match it - it sounds more suitable for a dark atmospheric map!

The level design is a bit boxy, in the most literal sense - you overrely on crate mazes in the two main rooms. The corridors are actually a lot better, with varied light and dark sections and different textures.

Nice unexpected switch effects on the doors between the north room and one of the crate rooms!

A basic map but a solid start! Could be an introduction to an episode if you wanted to continue in the same vein Try to make your rooms less like boxes with a single feature, experiment with split levels and making your architecture more interesting.

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MAP63 - Dimensional Accelerator by Untitled
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Black! Very black. Let's go for "creative idea" for now.

Yes, that was interesting in some regards The scenery looked good and I liked the secrets, though as I've said before I'm not a great fan of arena maps, and this map is a long string of them. For that reason, I was glad that you didn't lock the doors and you left it up to the player's wits to use the invisiblity and lure the monsters away from the passages to the next area.

The high point was the fight against the Spider Mastermind, with you having to run around to make sure you kept your cover up - that was a creative use of scenery that made the fight much less dull than the boss fights can tend to be!

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MAP64 - Urban Hell by ChrisR91
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Again, welcome to Doom mapping! Nice foggy hellish setting, and getting an objective is interesting - let's make a start.

Nice use of texturing and sectoring to create the city! The landscape is interesting, though the insides of the buildings can feel a bit sparse - particularly the first one you enter from the starting area, to the right of the lorry dock.

The fog and atmosphere is nice, but this suffers a bit from the same problem that city maps in Doom always have - a lack of a sense of direction or clue as to what to do next! It feels a bit empty sometimes - but I should stress that I far prefer this to maps that feel too full. The reliance on human enemies in the buildings can make them a bit too easy.

You have some great moments, though, like the dark corridor with the silhouette of the Arch-Vile looming out of it!

Hah, and a cutscene to end Your mapping skills are stellar especially for a learner! And this map played well enough, but it felt like it was staying below its potential in gameplay... would it be weird if I said that it reminded me of Syphon Filter on the PS1? I think an open-environment map like this could work great with that kind of gameplay, giving the player marked objectives that evolve as the level goes on.

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MAP65 - Electron by FloatRand
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Steady on mate, you've already done two great maps for this pack Well, here's a third...

Yes, I'll just deal with that Archvile with my pistol and a fruit-knife. Why not. (But then I saw what you were going for! That's a nice little set-piece, having to run away and get tooled up before you open up the door again.)

This is a bit beyond my skill level, to be honest, what with the constant monster hordes and Archviles - but your sense of decoration is fantastic and I especially love the blue lights that pulse in sequence. It's like playing Doom in a nightclub. You have an aesthetic and you're not afraid to use it!

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MAP66 - Caco-lover by Everennui
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Nice tactic on the music I like the visuals - it's a little bit of a different take on a base map with the multi-tiered hallway. And there's also the completely underappreciated "just reach over the barrier and press the switch" solution!

Here come the Cacodemons! With a lack of health and firepower this is going to be tricky.

Oh, bugger off, Archvile. Either I've done something very wrong or this is very unfair! It's a great and interesting map, but feels unbalanced for a single player against the onslaught - knowing from the intro text that it was intended for co-operative play makes it make a bit more sense.

The south room with the brick structure in the middle feels a bit weird and plain compared to the rest of the map.

The yellow door near the start is an open-once-only! This is a mapbreaker if you escape via the vent. The messaging around which keys go to which doors is a bit inconsistent - there are coloured stripes around some doors and switches but not others.

You made me work to get on to that platform! It took me a couple of tries to work out what the switch did.

Bit of a meat-shield corridor after that - the last Mancubus is stuck in the back wall.

Where the flaming hell is the blue key?

One check of the editor later... wow, that's good but I feel it could have been better hinted. Maybe by making the door to the vent blue as well so that you're forced to find it and can't escape until you do.

NICE collapsing bridge! Echoes of Contra This was a great-looking and well programmed map but I found it a very frustrating one to play, both in terms of unfair enemies and a confusing layout. I think a couple of tweaks to both, to guide the player better and give them a more... realistic challenge, would do wonders for it.

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MAP67 - Brown Mesa by Cheeki
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Happy first complete map! Nice surprise with the monsters spilling out in an apparently deserted room

I like the clear Episode 1 influence throughout - you emulate its style well and this looks like it could have been an id map despite being your first!

Nice secret outside, but glass panes would have looked better than inexplicable invisible walls to prevent the player going outside the obvious way. I was surprised there wasn't anything at the end of the path.

Good yellow key trap There's a HOM on the south side of the enclosure once it opens. Very slightly misaligned teleporter pad in the maze secret.

The maze feels like it goes on a bit too long - switching to a different style (computery more open maze, like in E1M2?) halfway through would have broken it up a bit. I like how it loops back seamlessly to put you back at the beginning with the biosuits without you realizing it.

The baron defending the switch a bit later on just soaks up time with the curved corridor providing an easy retreat - releasing a couple of demons would keep the tension going Knights are preferred over barons most of the time for being less of a meat shield.

A couple of hidden doors (now visible to me with the automap) really feel like they should be counted as secrets (chaingun and blue armour specifically).

I would avoid reversing the switch textures without good reason, because it can make it unclear what's been switched and what hasn't.

And we're out Nice scenery and sense of escape at the end! I found the lack of a trap in the red key room unsettling, and the last fight once you open the red door was nothing to speak of. Nevertheless, this was a great first map, with just a couple of annoyances mentioned above - aesthetically it was great, and it felt gentle to just about right for me.

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MAP68 - Bloody Hell by Wivicer
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Vampire-smashing is go again! The very start is a bit of a plain box, but the scenery improves once you're inside with the multi-level ceiling, very much like the Hangar in E1M1 - interesting use of sectors for the sloped door!

Nice suddenly bigger room. It could have had a bit more in it, a couple of flying enemies in addition to the chaingunners - and the lift up/down to the slime is too slow! The split door leading to it is great, but the texture you used doesn't look like a door. You could have customized your own with one of the existing door textures

The decoration is pretty good throughout, actually - nice use of elements to break long walls up and so on. I like the look of the water room beyond the red door - and the horizontal broken door is a nice touch It would be nice to have a visual reason why some of the doors can't be opened, even if it's a message saying "This door is operated by a switch".

That looks dangerous. I suppose I'm in hell now! This area starts off a little plainer but soon ramps up - the temple looks great and I like the multi-tiered lava environment.

This was a nice gentle and well-decorated map, it felt like the start of an episode. At times it felt a bit too empty (but again, I prefer erring on this side to having an outdoor environment with a million monsters coming at you) and there could have been more secrets to reward curious players going down the lava tunnels, for example. But I definitely enjoyed this one

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MAP69 - A Night at the Opera by Temin_Dump
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Hah. Okay Brilliant scare right at the start with the mirror!

This is a nice concept Ever played the opera house level from Tomb Raider 2? The keys standing out against the black and white world feel a bit Wizard of Oz, or maybe Rocky Horror.

And... the curtain has risen D: That's a scene I want to stay away from!

I was rocket-jumped to the seats by a Revenant! I'm not sure if I was meant to get there, but I appreciate the back sides of the doors being unlocked either way.

Got the megasphere, made it to the basement, earthquake and... scene? Confusing but fun map, great idea

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MAP70 - An Online Virtual Reality Used By Hackers - ShadowHog
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I wonder what other id games you're a fan of

I was immediately eviscerated by the turbodogs! Those things are tough - and frightening when they leap out at 100mph and capable of doing so much damage so quickly.

This map is really impressive architecturally, cramming the layout of a Quake level into Doom and including the 3D lifts, the long drops into caves, and so on - there are a couple of the better of Quake-styled traps as well like the dark fight with the hell knights. It can't have been easy to wrap your head around it, filling the positive space with 3D floors.

The keycards don't register with the doors and I noclipped through them! [Edited to add: This was due to loading Smoothdoom, which replaces the keys]

The plasma gun feels unnecessary given that it's at the very end of the... oh no.

Oh, it's Oremor Nhoj. This, again, is an impressively faithful recreation of one of the rubbishest boss fights in FPS history And you really went the extra mile by redoing the entire interface and sounds!

[leodoom85]

Hey, David. Are you using a mod with Dump 3?. This is for the issue in map 70 and can be related for the compatibility of the mod itself.

[DavidN]

That might be it! I'm using Smoothdoom which must replace the keys with its own - I'll run through again and check.

Edit: You're right, I'd loaded Smoothdoom after Dump3 and it replaced the keys. That was my fault

[Thyrork]

Update! 60 / 80.

MAP 66 - CACO-LOVER - Everennui
MAP 65 - ELECTRON - FloatRand
MAP 02 - PISSBOY - Anonymous
MAP 72 - THE RUNAROUND - LogicalFallacy
MAP 25 - LIVE FIRE EXORCISE - Sgt. Shivers

[NeuralStunner]

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Up until the red door the rooms are interesting-ish, but a bit boxy, with the red key room being the best. The cave is a welcome break from the base scenery by that point, but I was expecting it to be even more interesting - I was anticipating an ambush that never came!

There is an ambush, actually. The doorway into the second cavern has sound-blocking, and a line just inside that alerts all the monsters (including the ones in the pit).

Oh my god it's Silent Hill Or Silent Hill if it had a respectable castle aesthetic going on. I'm going to enjoy this. Nice detail with the doors making different noises.

I really love exploring all these environments and seeing how they change.

Yep, I was looking for a balance between familiarity and "what happens next?" The eastern cave room is an example of how you can make something very different with the same general room shape.

And we're at the exiiiioooh no we're not.

Bloody Archviles! I'd normally say two is overkill, but I actually managed to get through this fight without dying, so... I don't know. I ran away from the knights in the second round after getting the key.

You're lucky... The original draft had three of the buggers!

The plasma gun was far too generous, the map is easily completable without it - I would probably have put that in a very guarded secret!

I was initially going to do this, but personally I hate fighting high-HP monsters with anything else.

This is a great concept and I'd love to see more levels like it Maybe adding some more interaction between the two dimensions, with actions in one affecting the other... and I was actually expecting the hell dimension to be even more oppressive. Make the player dread going there but have to do it out of necessity

The original plan was to lin them in a few places, but I was a bit pressed for the time to get progression to make sense.

I was also very surprised at how generous a portion of the map was behind secrets... the entire lower cave section and about half the dark world, with over 100 monsters left unaccounted for when you go for a normal exit. I'm not sure whether this is good or bad, honestly, but it was... unusual.

Can you tell I like secrets? I like secrets that are more interesting than a closet with a few items. (Also, I don't know if you found it, but the hellworld has a cavern are as well. It's not obvious unless you've found the one on the light world and are suspicious that it's mirrored too.

Also, at least one of the monsters is a rather cruel surprise...

[Thyrork]

And another 5 down. 65 / 80.

MAP 60 - THE DUALITY - NeuralStunner*
MAP SECRET1 - SILVERSATELLITE - DudeDesigns
MAP 73 - ATTACK FROM WITHIN - Mumblemumble
MAP 01 - CHECK-IN - unRyker
MAP 71 - BTFS - Gageat

[DavidN]

78/80! (I needed a distraction from the American election.) I've now reached the end of the maps, and covered the secret ones as well - thanks to absolutely everyone who contributed to this community pack, you've provided some interesting, fun and (particularly in the case of one map here) mind-altering experiences.

http://teamouse.net/games/doom/dump3.txt if Verizon stops messing with my IP address.

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MAP71 - BTFS by Gageat
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Fantastic space-themed map Escalates well, without being too simple or too hard, and great detailing - I especially liked the lighting in the vents. The way you used locked doors to route the player around to where they needed to go next was great as well. I liked the change of scenery with the teleport to the infested ship.

One minute until...? WHO DESIGNED THIS

Good boss fight, though I appreciated the Archvile with the transparent pillar, so you could see what it was doing! The route back to the helm was a bit uneventful, even with the injection of another Archvile into the bridge. But otherwise this was great!

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MAP72 - The Runaround by LogicalFallacy
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Nice concept for a map, slowly climbing up the central chamber to give a sense of progression! I would possibly have made that even more grandiose, open to the sky and even taller to give it more significance. I think it would also have been good if the chambers were attached instead of separate, so that there was a physical sensation of climbing as well.

The arenas outside the central chamber are OK but a bit boxy and plain in places, especially the three or four basically repeated L-shaped rooms.

Suspicious generosity... and yes, there's the boss

It isn't a bad map but kind of plain - more flavour and more interesting challenges for the player would make this idea shine

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MAP73 - Attack from Within by Mumblemumble
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I actually started this map a few times at the end of a run of maps before deciding that I wasn't ready to make that sort of commitment The enemy count and the start makes it seem very daunting - though I enjoyed the challenge of holding one or both doors closed to fend off the invasion while I got my bearings. Five Nights at Flynn Taggart's?

This is an okay slaughtermap although it felt like it could have been more interesting in places (perhaps my opinion is coloured by my being a bit fatigued by this point, after 71 other maps!) There's an overreliance on crates - one room full of them would have been okay but they feature quite heavily in other ones as well, particularly the annoying corridor where hell's creatures have set up a sort of slalom driving test course on the way out. The frequent giving out of megaspheres and blue armour seems like a brute-force way to balance the map, as if admitting that you have to give the player an excess of resources to just keep plugging away at the overwhelming opposition.

I liked some of the details like the locked shipping container in the crate room, and the map definitely started and ended on high notes, with a memorable starting room and an arena that was a bit different to finish off with.

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SECRET1 - SILVERSATELLITE by DudeDesigns
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BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG Turn that racket down!

Well, it definitely shows that it was made within an hour but what's there works well enough. Three tiny little arena challenges and then some demons only visible when shot as a boss - it could have been more challenging if they were spread around the room (with an introduction that they're there somehow) and not in a tiny box and easily picked off.

It doesn't matter in a tiny map like this, but using the key colour strips on doors where you get the key rather than doors that require the key is unnecessarily confusing!

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SECRET2 - Knee-Deep in the DUMP by MJ79
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This music is doing weird things to my brain! Was Megalovania always this similar to At Doom's Gate? I've no idea any more.

So welcome to Doom mapping - it's great that this project can encourage more people to try it out It looks like you've been experimenting here and everything works the way it should, so here are some tips to improve things:

Try to avoid changing floor and ceiling textures without also changing the sector height (e.g. stairs, or differences in the ceiling) - it stops the map from having floors and ceilings that weirdly blend into each other.

You can set doors into the walls a little to prevent them being flush with the walls and taking up the whole of the floor-to-ceiling height of the room (use three thin sectors side by side - open up an early id map to take a look at how it's done there - you do this with the "secret" door)

Vary the size of your rooms a lot more - the map here was meant to be claustrophobic, but being deliberately claustrophobic doesn't necessarily equate to being a good map You could have some hints of larger rooms even if they're inaccessible, get the player to squeeze through vents, and so on... make the map more varied than a series of interconnected rooms that are all about the same size and shape.

Hide your secrets - a door leading to a room isn't a secret Use a section of wall that's a bit different from the others, or has the trim in the wrong place...

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SECRET3 - The Best Map by TerminusEst13
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Hah Funny little scenario (and accidentally a minimalist version of MAP63 Dimensional Accelerator!) - I liked the flustered switch messages. I know I got through it once but subsequent attempts just left me dying around the skull switch - perhaps just blind luck of the random number generator.

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SECRET4 - Box Simple by Redead-ITA
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I have no idea what to say about this map. It looks like Dead Simple just after having been delivered from IKEA with the packaging left on. I suspect it was intentionally a bit rubbish, but the ping-pong path in the centre areas are dull, as is the literal copy and paste of the second half of the map!

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SECRET5 - Escape Plan by Anonymous
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I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. Help.

This map plays by no rules! Also the music has restarted and has gone mental and I'm scared.

I can't give any advice to this map, it's completely indescribable. Well, maybe a bit - the possibility of a more adventure-style Doom game is an interesting one, but I would hope that a real map would be more intuitive than this! (See also: Hexen II.) You have to search a corpse with the Use key with no indication that it's a possibility or acknowledgment afterwards, and you can dead-end yourself with the Cyberdemon without realizing it - I initially thought that it was something immensely clever like having to make his rockets hit the panel to open it. And then... crushing ceiling that you escape by just going to bed? I don't know any more. I need a drink.

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SECRET6 - Real is Shit by Deviluke Roy
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The first couple of rooms of this are nice and set up a good atmosphere, but then it's let down by every area being absolutely massive! The walk to the blue key and back is ludicrous, as is the red key corridor and the size of the arena that you find a bit later with a couple of marines in it... to improve this map, I would probably entirely replace the red and blue paths with smaller routes with more interesting scenery - some corners to hide behind, more use of vertical space - and cut out about seven eighths of the dead space that the map has currently.

The use of the railgun is also a bit cheap!

[DavidN]

And yes, NeuralStunner - thanks for your responses, and for a very interesting map! I'd definitely like to see more like this idea, outside the time constraints

[leodoom85]

Hey David, now that you reviewed all the maps, except the final boss, which is your favourite map of this mapset?. I think that could be a hard one .

[Redead-ITA]

SECRET4 - Box Simple by Redead-ITA
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I have no idea what to say about this map. It looks like Dead Simple just after having been delivered from IKEA with the packaging left on. I suspect it was intentionally a bit rubbish, but the ping-pong path in the centre areas are dull, as is the literal copy and paste of the second half of the map!

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Well i have a better version of the map But Terminus decided to use this version Because He though that version was interesting Dont judge us both
just to let you know that the map is basicly 2 maps in one.
the first part is like the Version before i added actual map texture instead of box textures and then Term decided to combine the oldest version in wich had even less things but it was kinda my Bad cuz i send a wad with both old version (wich it was placed as map07 and the second wich was placed as map01 for the use of the music) and i didnt precise that map one was the good one sooooo yeah

[NeuralStunner]

MAP 60 - THE DUALITY - Ghastly

I appreciate the review, but that attribution is just to the opening quote! (Something Ghastly said to me when he found one of the meaner traps in the first draft.)

And yes, NeuralStunner - thanks for your responses, and for a very interesting map! I'd definitely like to see more like this idea, outside the time constraints

I always have time constraints from one thing or another. But I might kick the concept over to a full TC at some point...

[Major Cooke]

Beed, your bouncy castle map gives me motion sickness.