$#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

If it's not ZDoom, it goes here.
User avatar
Jeimuzu73
Posts: 1662
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 pm
Location: Dropping today in Station Square.

$#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Jeimuzu73 »

My good ol' USB which has everything on it is starting to wear on me. I can't create new folders, save files or even play songs. >:(
Windows Explorer and other programs just cease to function, reinserting the USB doesn't work and I can't exactly copy all my stuff onto the C drive either, so I'm very screwed. Any hints outta this mess?
User avatar
ShadowTiger
Posts: 615
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:32 pm
Location: New York

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by ShadowTiger »

Can you boot from an external operating system, like Ubuntu or Fedora? At a minimum, there's no way explorer can crash on you. :P
Nevander
Posts: 2254
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:32 pm

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Nevander »

Like above said, I would suggest using an another OS on your own or on another computer to attempt to access the USB. At that point I'd immediately backup everything on it that I cared about. Maybe the USB is fine and Windows is the problem. It may work fine in another OS, given that you said it screws with Windows Explorer. I've never known a faulty USB to actually crash Explorer, but I could be wrong.
User avatar
Jeimuzu73
Posts: 1662
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 pm
Location: Dropping today in Station Square.

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Jeimuzu73 »

I tried safe mode, the library computers, same issues. Another big problem is that the disk starts off as normal and later just reverts to an "empty" disk, and when I try to find the disk in Command Prompt it says "Path not found - E:\". I don't normally go mad at things like this, but WTF!
Last edited by Jeimuzu73 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
XanderK9
Posts: 411
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:42 pm
Preferred Pronouns: He/Him
Operating System Version (Optional): Windows 11
Graphics Processor: nVidia with Vulkan support

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by XanderK9 »

Nevander wrote:I've never known a faulty USB to actually crash Explorer, but I could be wrong.
I did in my tech days, but that was very rare and some cases even made Windows giving a BSOD the instant I connect the drive. :P

As long the drive or the partition is not totally broken, I was usually able to recover data under Linux or Mac OS without too much hassle.
User avatar
Kinsie
Posts: 7402
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:22 am
Graphics Processor: nVidia with Vulkan support
Location: MAP33

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Kinsie »

You can swear here, you know.

But speaking of, one of my old backup external USB drives is giving me "YO THIS ISN'T FORMATTED" messages on both Windows 10 and OSX Yosemite. Is there any chance I can salvage the contents, and if so, can someone explain how to me like I'm a five year old? Cheers.
User avatar
Abba Zabba
Posts: 2166
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:50 pm
Location: a place lol!

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Abba Zabba »

I, too, know the pain of memory media taking a crap, but my external HD was at least partially working so I could save the important stuff before it finally kicked it. The general rule of thumb for myself to prevent future shenanigans is to 1: back it up onto an internal HD (I have yet to have an issue with internals) and 2: back it up online. Make this routine for yourself, and best of luck getting the damn thing to cooperate with you.
User avatar
Graf Zahl
Lead GZDoom+Raze Developer
Lead GZDoom+Raze Developer
Posts: 49183
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:19 am
Location: Germany

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Graf Zahl »

Are these problems sudden or did they develop over time?

Normally, when any kind of storage media is repeatedly showing reliability problems, even slight ones, the first course of action should be a complete backup.

Just a few weeks ago the SD card in my digital camera suddenly had some issues, prompting the camera to say 'no card inserted' or having to plug it into my computer 3 times before it could be read. The first thing I did was copy all its contents to my HD and buy a new one. Good thing I did so because two weeks later it can't be read at all anymore.

The lesson here:

If you got a storage medium with "everything on it", it's time to reconsider your attitude. Always keep a backup of important stuff, it doesn't really matter if you store it on an USB stick, a second HD or in some online cloud storage. Just make sure you can eventually retrieve everything if it craps out on you.
User avatar
Jeimuzu73
Posts: 1662
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 pm
Location: Dropping today in Station Square.

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Jeimuzu73 »

*groan*
It only started to happen last night...
I couldn't even back it up and now TARFUBAR.
I think there's even a virus that's causing the trouble, and I can't scan the damn disk.

Hmm...on a more positive note, I just plugged the USB into the lab computer which uses Linux and so far no issues are encountered unlike with Windows. Interesting...
User avatar
zZaRDoZz
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:04 am

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by zZaRDoZz »

I suppose this has already gone beyond anything isobuster can help with?
User avatar
phantombeta
Posts: 2119
Joined: Thu May 02, 2013 1:27 am
Operating System Version (Optional): Windows 10
Graphics Processor: nVidia with Vulkan support
Location: Brazil

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by phantombeta »

MJ79 wrote:Hmm...on a more positive note, I just plugged the USB into the lab computer which uses Linux and so far no issues are encountered unlike with Windows. Interesting...
Partially corrupted filesystem? Or maybe driver problems?
No idea if the former is like this...
Kinsie wrote:But speaking of, one of my old backup external USB drives is giving me "YO THIS ISN'T FORMATTED" messages on both Windows 10 and OSX Yosemite. Is there any chance I can salvage the contents, and if so, can someone explain how to me like I'm a five year old? Cheers.
I think this can be a corrupted filesystem or partition table... Not sure, though...
User avatar
edward850
Posts: 5886
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:06 pm
Location: New Zealand

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by edward850 »

Kinsie wrote:But speaking of, one of my old backup external USB drives is giving me "YO THIS ISN'T FORMATTED" messages on both Windows 10 and OSX Yosemite. Is there any chance I can salvage the contents, and if so, can someone explain how to me like I'm a five year old? Cheers.
See if chkdsk can recover it. It'll claim it's RAW, but sometimes you strike lucky and it'll figure it out.
Failing that, there's this tool.
User avatar
Jeimuzu73
Posts: 1662
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 pm
Location: Dropping today in Station Square.

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Jeimuzu73 »

Begun the long, gruelling task of copying files to a new drive. Forget what I said earlier about the drive having no errors on Linux - I can't shift whole gigabytes of data in one go and the disk no longer becomes recognized after a few minutes. I've recovered some photos, some important word documents and programs but as for others such as music, sprites and sounds I will have to rebuild my entire collections from scratch. That includes the GZDoom folder as well.

Man, I really broke the egg basket big-time.

If the file system inside the USB is corrupted, is there a way to fix it?
User avatar
edward850
Posts: 5886
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:06 pm
Location: New Zealand

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by edward850 »

Format it. Suddenly the old file system doesn't even matter. ;)
That's assuming you even can. What you're describing can sometimes be attributed to a flash drive that has run out of cells to write to, as flash memory will over time, or a mechanical drive that has suffered head-on-platter damage from physical movement, resulting in unaddressable sections of said platters. Explorer will appear to lockup as it waits for a timeout from the bad sectors.
User avatar
Jeimuzu73
Posts: 1662
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 pm
Location: Dropping today in Station Square.

Re: $#@%! (Universally Serious Bullsh*t)

Post by Jeimuzu73 »

It seems that the only way I can get around this is to painstakingly transfer minute amounts of important data into my new drive one at a time. *groan* oh Cripes, I really don't want to rebuild my music, sound and sprite libraries again... :-( Once I get everything I need out of there, I'll format the bastard to kingdom come.

On top of that, AVG just spotted a trojan horse in a folder in my old drive! That and the other crap I filled in might be the culprit to this mess.

Return to “Off-Topic”