About translations...

[Masterminded666]

I want to create some gray demons but i cant understand the createtranslation parameters. Need an explanation please...

[Nanami]

Use this:

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CreateTranslation(1,16:47=80:111);
Thing_SetTranslation(666,1);

Give your demons a tid of 1.

[Hirogen2]

Now what are those numbers for?

[Kate]

they're Doom pallette entries.

[Nanami]

They're changing a range of colors to another range of colors. For more information try this:

http://zdoom.org/files/examples/translation-tud.zip

[deathz0r]

Use this:

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CreateTranslation(1,16:47=80:111);
Thing_SetTranslation(666,1);

Give your demons a tid of 1.

666, not 1.

[The Ultimate DooMer]

I want to create some gray demons but i cant understand the createtranslation parameters. Need an explanation please...

If you've ever opened up a DooM bitmap in Paint Shop Pro (or equivalent) and looked at the palette, you'll see 16 rows of 16 coloured squares. Each square is numbered, these are the numbers you see in the CreateTranslation special. Notice how all squares of a certain colour (various shades) are grouped together in a line, this is a palette range.

What the translation does is it changes one range of colours into another. If you look at my translation example (link given earlier) each translation replaces the standard green colour (112:127) with another colour, producing 22 different coloured marines. For demons, you need to replace the pink colour (16:31) instead of the green colour. All of the ranges are shown in the example wad, so you can just copy-and-paste them from there.

Replace:

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CreateTranslation (9, 112:127=96:111);

with:

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CreateTranslation (9, 16:31=96:111);

and use:

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Thing_SetTranslation (tag, 9);

to turn the demons grey.

[Cyb]

should be noted that you can also remap palette numbers to rgb values so like:

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CreateTranslation(1, 16:47=[0, 0, 128]:[0, 0, 255]); 

translates the pinkish colors used for demons into a blue range. makes it easier for ranges that are really small on the palette like a yellow or black range

you can't however do the opposite and assign rgb values to something (pal or other rgb values) so:

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CreateTranslation(1, [64, 0, 0]:[192, 0, 0]=[0, 0, 128]:[0, 0, 255]); 
CreateTranslation(1, [64, 0, 0]:[192, 0, 0]=112:127); 

are invalid

also you can have an unlimited (? I'm sure there's an upper limit, but I dunno) # of translations within so like:

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CreateTranslation(1, 16:47=[0, 0, 128]:[0, 0, 255], 112:127=16:47, 0:15=192:256); 

it's all documented in the translations example (or it was in the old one, I haven't actually looked at the new one but I'm sure TUD left all the comments etc :) )

[Nanami]

Use this:

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CreateTranslation(1,16:47=80:111);
Thing_SetTranslation(666,1);

Give your demons a tid of 1.

666, not 1.

Oops. I copied and pasted that from my wad and thought I changed all the numbers.

Oh and Cyb, I'm not sure of the limit on translations but I managed to get nine on a lost soul yesterday.

[Cyb]

well I'm sure if there is a limit it's more like 255 or 65536 :P

[bimshwel]

If none of these work, there's always Babelfish...

[The Ultimate DooMer]

well I'm sure if there is a limit it's more like 255 or 65536

You can have 31 CreateTranslations in each map. (but of course you can have plenty of ranges remapped in each one)


And yes, I did leave all the comments in the example wad. (with some of my own, too)

[Nanami]

Yeah, we meant we didn't know the limit on altered ranges per translation.

[The Ultimate DooMer]

I don't know then. I've got 8 in a couple of mine, but I suppose 255 would be the theoretical limit. (remapping all palette entries)