Behold: FVoxels!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:53 pm

ah yes. i don't expect anyone to try and do it by hand like i did, i don't wish that on anyone. i thought that if anyone was going to use them, and if it would be practical to do so, it wouldn't be TOO difficult for a program to be written to make them easier to create. that's only if people would use them for something not so simple, otherwise i could prolly get off making some prefabs and writing a little explanation of the things to do to make em work. or even just having a wad with them all set up already in the lumps and DECORATE.

Macil · Post by **Macil** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:16 pm

Voxels!!

3d model format made by Ken Silverman.

Voxel = Volumetric Pixel

Post by **MasterOFDeath** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:35 pm

Until I asked destroyer and tried this wad, I had no idea what a Voxel was. NOW I WANT THEM IN ZDOOM REALLY BADLY!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:40 pm

i'd certainly like that. imagine the possibilities that would open up! i guess it ain't happening though, at least not for a good while.

Csonicgo · Post by **Csonicgo** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:45 pm

ah, I remember these! voxels were usually used for graphic demos of the old days to show off your computer. I always loved those DOS "technology demonstration programs".

Macil · Post by **Macil** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:57 pm

Go to Ken Silverman's website to learn more about voxels, and programs to make voxels. And a program to convert a regular 3d models into voxels.

BetaSword · Post by **BetaSword** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:58 pm

Couldn't these be used to theoretically create 3D decorations, such as lights and stuff sticking out of walls? And another thing, couldn't things be sped up a bit by making the objects (like the BFG) hollow? I mean, a person is thoeretically not going to see the center of the thing, so why waste fvoxels on it? Seems kinda redundant to me... And it could possibly increase speed by a pretty good amount.

Macil · Post by **Macil** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:02 pm

It is hollow, and the other stuff you said, the answer is yes. This is an amazing event.

Post by **MasterOFDeath** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:03 pm

ATTENTION RANDY - YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO MAKE US WAIT FOR IN ZDOOM .65

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:07 pm

actually the BFG is hollow. i thought of that right at the very start, i wanted to keep the voxel count down as much as possible. (that's why the voxels are stacked in increments of 2, less of them used) the reason it looks filled in in an editor is cause that's just the top and bottom. i MIGHT be able to get away with making the bottom hollow too if you're not gonna see it, but yeah.

edit: ah, Agent ME beat me to it.

Csonicgo · Post by **Csonicgo** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:09 pm

uh, are you SURE ken silverman made these?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:16 pm

Ken Silverman made voxels, but mine here are not REAL voxels, they're just facing sprites (no "volume"). i'm not sure how voxels work exactly but from what i understand they're more like cubes and definitely not flat.

Csonicgo · Post by **Csonicgo** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:35 pm

well, Ken silverman didn't "INVENT" voxels, he just found a practical use for them.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:01 pm

right, that's what i meant, i think.

Lexus Alyus · Post by **Lexus Alyus** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:01 am

Voxels have been asked for a million times before...

It is true that Voxels would add a nice dimension to Zdoom and there are plenty of editors out there... as mentioned before, I'd be happy with just 3D weapons, decoratrions (except dead bodies) and pickups... plus, you could make a cool 3D platform like in ROTT (I know they aren't 3D and they look pritty bad... but the concept is cool

).

I'm not sure what randies motives are for declining the inclusion of voxels...

Behold: FVoxels!

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