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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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Will this engine support weapon sprites that are at their standard resolution (Like Doom or RotT) instead of scaled up the way Wolf3D did it?
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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It does. Sprites are handled the same way as ZDoom.

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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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Woolie Wool posted this in the WIP thread:

It makes my lust for SVN builds all the greater.
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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Oh boy, oh boy. My brother's a crazy W3D fan. Wait till I show him this!

Just a question though: If this engine is essentially a modular set up using a form of decorate as opposed to all-in-one hard coding is this still really Wolfenstein 3D or is it essentially a 'crippled' version of something like ZDoom? I mean no trolling, I'm just really curious as to where the old game ends and the new engine begins... :)
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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Average wrote:Oh boy, oh boy. My brother's a crazy W3D fan. Wait till I show him this!

Just a question though: If this engine is essentially a modular set up using a form of decorate as opposed to all-in-one hard coding is this still really Wolfenstein 3D or is it essentially a 'crippled' version of something like ZDoom? I mean no trolling, I'm just really curious as to where the old game ends and the new engine begins... :)
The very first post in this thread holds the answers you seek.
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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Please tell me that the DECORATE tic length is the same as in Wolfenstein 3D, i.e. 70 tics per second, not 35 like in Doom. No need to lower the resolution.
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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[quote="Kinsie"It makes my lust for SVN builds all the greater.[/quote]
Well, they'd be HG builds in any case.
printz wrote:Please tell me that the DECORATE tic length is the same as in Wolfenstein 3D, i.e. 70 tics per second, not 35 like in Doom. No need to lower the resolution.
The length is the same as in ZDoom, however you use half tics.

E.g.

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GARD ABCD 2.5
This is valid in ECWolf.
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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That's good I guess, but I wonder why so? To make easy porting between ECWolf and ZDoom?
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Well, I'm waiting to see how long it takes for the first mod that works in both ZDoom and ECWolf. It also makes the ZDoom wiki more relevent overall.
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Blzut3, do you see this project sitting side by side with Wolf4SDL? Or do you envisage it more as a next generation 'super Wolf' kind of thing?

I showed my brother the video above and that was his first question... :)
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I see this existing side-by-side with Wolf4SDL for the same reason Chocolate Doom exits (although PrBoom might be a better comparison for Wolf4SDL). Wolf4SDL also has a smaller memory footprint (although we're talking 18MB vs 22MB here) and lower CPU requirements which would also make it more suitable for porting to low end devices.

For mod creation I hope that ECWolf fully replaces Wolf4SDL as, although not quite as flexible as source code edits, ECWolf does future proof mods. (At least it will do so after 2.0 when backwards compatibility is kept. Which is not to say 2.0 won't run 1.0 mods, but mod authors will need to take note of and follow forwards compatibility tips as there are current a few things that I left unimplemented since it's good enough for Wolf3D/Spear.)
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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I wonder how long it will be before someone attempts to port Blake Stone to this. :)
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Or Shadowcaster!
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Unless source code available, reverse-engineer baby :)
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Re: The official "ZDoom on Wolfenstein 3D" thead. (aka ECWol

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Snarboo wrote:I wonder how long it will be before someone attempts to port Blake Stone to this. :)
Mac Wolf, Operation Body Count, Corridor 7, Blake Stone, and Super 3D Noah's Ark (In no particular order there except Mac Wolf is slated for 2.0) are all in the plans for support. Rott is also planned, but given that it'll be the last thing to be supported I can't make any promises that it'll even be possible at that point. Rott is also complicated as it has its source code released under the GPL, but I can't use that outside of what can go in ecwolf.pk3 (because of my dual licensing).

If anyone wants to help they're more than welcome to reverse engineer those games and send me the notes (pseudo-decorate, action pointer descriptions, any data file format differences, the palette, etc). The easier it is for me the support the game, the sooner you'll see support in ECWolf. ;)
Gez wrote:Or Shadowcaster!
Unlikely, I doubt ECWolf will ever support slopes or any height differences at all without portals. I guess you're more than welcome to fork, implement it, and send a pull request though. :p

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