[WIP] Doom: Evil Unleashed -- announcement

[demo_the_man]

this mod.

[Stormblade]

If it's alive and receiving updates, I wonder why the thread doesn't get updated?

Uhm, I'm sorry for that, but I was planning to use this thread for important updates and such. Seeing as I don't have any important progress for the mod, I haven't seen the need to update the thread.

In any case, if I decided to cancel this project, I would also announce it here, so in case you're wondering, I still have no plans to cancel lol.

You know, I'm curious. Where is the blog?

Oh, forgot to include a link in the first post! But yes, the link provided by SamVision is the correct one. I added a link to it now.

Have you guys considered lowering the gravity, in game to relfect that tei-tenga seems to be about the size of earths moon.

Well, I think that would be a cool idea to implement in a game where there's actually some sort of way to check how low gravity is (aka jumping). There's no jumping in Doom EU, so lowering gravity would probably not be as a great addition as it may sound...

This may be a stupid idea, but what about adding the Chaingun in, but giving it a slower fire rate and making it a teeny bit more powerful.

Also, add the handgun in but make it slightly less powerful than the rifle, but make it not very accurate (as it should be!)....

Well, I removed those weapons because of reasons already stated by others: they are redundant. I had this idea that maybe some of the characters would use one or the other, but I'm not quite sure. It would make Deathmatch pretty interesting to say the least. This is also doable thanks to the new flags weapons can have (like restricting a weapon for certain player classes).

If I ever implement such a thing, by following Tom's original idea, for example, the handgun would go to Lorelei (since she's mentioned to be really good at using the pistol). I would also need new sprites, since Doomguy's hairy arms don't fit her very well

The main problem I have with this is that there are Assault Rifles laying literally everywhere (just look at those Zombiemen), and since it's the default military weapon, then why isn't she able to pick up one and use it?

Has anyone ever considered fusing worlds? Between Doom and Doom bible?

When I saw this I thought of what TheMightyHeracross said, like a crossover or something, and I gotta say he's right. There's nothing like crossovers planned, because we're strictly following the Doom Bible. Maybe if Episode 1 is ever finished, I may consider adding some references to the Doom universe, since other episodes were never fully elaborated upon, and that gives a lot of room for creativity.

Well... now that I think about it...

Maybe you could add in Corporal Flynn Taggart (kind of as a joke sort of, or just to extend the character roster) and have him start out with a pistol. The only catch is that the Rifle is slightly weaker than the Pistol and slightly less accurate than the Pistol. And the Chaingun would be slower starting up (kind of like in Doom 3) and the Machinegun would be more used.

Also, you could make it your own.

While I do realize you are following the Doom bible. Do something that makes you feel happy, I mean don't be Tom Hall. You are hfc2x right? You are one of the greatest modders besides wildweasel and others that I can think of.

Just do what makes the most sense. I mean this is Doom.

[hfc2x]

Well, that was... interesting.

Anyways:

Is the spray rifle still in the game?

The SSG is in this mod, so the Spray Rifle would be redundant.

from some of the earlier screenshots its a plasma shotgun

Basically, what demo_the_man said. I know the Spray Rifle sounded redundant, but I just didn't want to scrap it, because it sounded like a cool weapon. Besides, for some reason "Spray Rifle" sounded like an energy weapon to me, so that's why I threw some placeholder sprites in and made it some sort of plasma shotgun with a really wide spread (I don't remember if I ever showed it, but it looks like I did, since people remember it).

[RIPANDTEAR]

I think I found a way to add the chaingun and maybe the pistol to. There could be 2 seperate wad files and if you load both it would include the chaingun and pistol for all characters and the changun would act different for everyone but the pistol would be the same for all characters. Just an idea though. For all I know it might not work at all. PS I saw what you did to the spray rifle and it looks cool. I like how you changed it from firing bullets to cells.

[SamVision]

"Is this him?"

[demo_the_man]

that's what i remember

[hfc2x]

There could be 2 seperate wad files and if you load both it would include the chaingun and pistol for all characters

That would be a [patch] or something that would come later, since the chaingun isn't mentioned in the Doom Bible at all.

"Is this him?"

Oh, right! I didn't remember that post

[RIPANDTEAR]

The doom bible says "Cells. Plasma Gun, BFG 2704.Grenades. Grenade launcher."
Will you include the so called grenade laucher and grenades or do you not know what to do with them? Also will the bfg act like the finale or like the press release beta one? Just incase you don't know what I am talking about here is what I mean by beta bfg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9jYFneBvWo

[hfc2x]

I changed the Grenade Launcher the same way I plan to change the Spray Rifle. It actually uses Rockets, because why Cells? I couldn't think of any possible way the Grenade Launcher could use cells to fire bouncing explosives. And besides, the Grenade Launcher will be a Deathmatch-exclusive weapon, just like several items in the game.

Just incase you don't know what I am talking about

>Hfc2x
>Not knowing about early versions of Doom
TOP KEK

Anyways, to answer your question, the BFG fires like the Press Beta version, but the projectiles look and act different (you could say it's kind of a cool disaster). I saved the "BFG Splash" effect of finished Doom to serve a better purpose.

[RIPANDTEAR]

I changed the Grenade Launcher the same way I plan to change the Spray Rifle. It actually uses Rockets, because why Cells? I couldn't think of any possible way the Grenade Launcher could use cells to fire bouncing explosives. And besides, the Grenade Launcher will be a Deathmatch-exclusive weapon, just like several items in the game.

Just incase you don't know what I am talking about

>Hfc2x
>Not knowing about early versions of Doom
TOP KEK

Anyways, to answer your question, the BFG fires like the Press Beta version, but the projectiles look and act different (you could say it's kind of a cool disaster). I saved the "BFG Splash" effect of finished Doom to serve a better purpose.

I thought you would make it fire rockets. I also found something else from the doom bible.
"Weapons (Floor items and helmet view window items)
V Knife
V Machine Pistol
D Officer’s Pistol (nice shiny pistol, could be wall patch)
V Shotgun
D Sawed-off shotgun (hidden in personal storage)
V Automatic machine gun
V Missile launcher
V 10-Bullet Clip
V 4-missile Cartridge
V 4 Heat-seaking missiles cartridge"

I know that there is no pistol in the game but what do you think the officer's pistol would do?

[demo_the_man]

i think it would probaly be for show, as there is no real pourpose to its existance otherwise
maybye for pistol enemy drops perhaps?
also its already been stated that its not goin in

[RIPANDTEAR]

also its already been stated that its not goin in

Lol I know that I just wandered what would be the differences between it and the reg. pistol if it was still in the game.

[hfc2x]

If I ever implement such a thing, by following Tom's original idea, for example, the handgun would go to Lorelei (since she's mentioned to be really good at using the pistol). I would also need new sprites, since Doomguy's hairy arms don't fit her very well

The main problem I have with this is that there are Assault Rifles laying literally everywhere (just look at those Zombiemen), and since it's the default military weapon, then why isn't she able to pick up one and use it?

[demo_the_man]

just asking, you promised a beta for soon quite farther than soon ago
Where is all the beta? Where is it? huh
How much longer is soon
also do you have any info on how the probectile works in gameplay

[RIPANDTEAR]

[quote="hfc2x"]
The main problem I have with this is that there are Assault Rifles laying literally everywhere (just look at those Zombiemen), and since it's the default military weapon, then why isn't she able to pick up one and use it?


Mabey she has inexperience with the weapon (it's the default military so this may not work) or it could be to heavy for her so she would perfer to use a pistol instead. Also I don't think my real question was answered. I asked what would be the difference between the 2 pistols if they were in the game.