[WIP] Doom: Evil Unleashed -- announcement

[hfc2x]

Speaking of auto maps, are you going to add the minimap thing from the alpha?

*facepalm*

[BlueFireZ88]

Speaking of auto maps, are you going to add the minimap thing from the alpha?

*facepalm*

Care to elaborate on any other BS features you'd like for us NOT to mention or even ask about? Otherwise, I think this string of pointless questions might continue.

[Gez]

the original code was never completed and is likely no longer part of ZDoom's codebase

It's not even part of the Linuxdoom codebase (the "cleaned out" source code that Id relased).

According to people who had seen the complete Doom source code, however, it was just a header with some #defines in it. No real code was ever done.

[SamVision]

Speaking of auto maps, are you going to add the minimap thing from the alpha?

*facepalm*

I am talking about A MINIMAP IN THE UPPER CORNER OF THE SCREEN. Nothing else.

[hfc2x]

Care to elaborate on any other BS features you'd like for us NOT to mention or even ask about?

Okay, okay, don't be mad.
It's simple, don't ask me to add features that are not currently being supported by ZDoom. I don't wanna make modifications to the engine because everyone will be complaining about the engine will be outdated in short time. That was discussion on Sodaholic's thread.

[wildweasel]

Speaking of auto maps, are you going to add the minimap thing from the alpha?

*facepalm*

I am talking about A MINIMAP IN THE UPPER CORNER OF THE SCREEN. Nothing else.

Which is absolutely NOT possible in ZDoom without major, major hacking at the code, and has in fact been asked about many times on this forum every time someone starts a project that uses the Alpha 0.2 hud. Matter of fact, it actually just got brought up a couple of weeks ago in the Editing forum.

[BlueFireZ88]

Care to elaborate on any other BS features you'd like for us NOT to mention or even ask about?

Okay, okay, don't be mad.
It's simple, don't ask me to add features that are not currently being supported by ZDoom. I don't wanna make modifications to the engine because everyone will be complaining about the engine will be outdated in short time. That was discussion on Sodaholic's thread.

I'm not mad, I just noticed how annoyed you get when people keep asking about these features that are not simply possible to code. I merely suggested to list the features from Alpha that would not be possible now with ZDoom. So I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but hey, that's text response for ya.

[Project Shadowcat]

@PDF Cmon, dont be so rude! But please, someone block this kid LOL

I'm not being rude, I'm being truthful!

[hfc2x]

@BlueFire That's currently the only feature not possible to recreate. The shields were the other one, but I did a workaround for them.

@PDF The blocking thing was not for you

[Onslaught Six]

I am talking about A MINIMAP IN THE UPPER CORNER OF THE SCREEN. Nothing else.

Which is absolutely NOT possible in ZDoom without major, major hacking at the code, and has in fact been asked about many times on this forum every time someone starts a project that uses the Alpha 0.2 hud. Matter of fact, it actually just got brought up a couple of weeks ago in the Editing forum.

You know, I saw this happen once, though. I swear. I played it! It was part of some ScoreDoom branch or something. Really wish I could find it again.
Actually I did some digging just now and I did:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=13608&start=60

Not that I expect it to be implemented ever; but it's out there sorta. I'm not saying it should be put in this mod or anything; just that it IS possible.

Anyway! I'm kind of vaguely interested in starting mapping for this...It's been a long-ass time since I did ANY mapping but yeah.

@BlueFire That's currently the only feature not possible to recreate. The shields were the other one, but I did a workaround for them.

@PDF The blocking thing was not for you

How are you handling the shields? For some reason I'm thinking the PowerShield, i.e. Q2 use-shield.

[hfc2x]

How are you handling the shields? For some reason I'm thinking the PowerShield, i.e. Q2 use-shield.

That was the original idea. In fact, Carmack implemented it from the things that they scrapped for Doom. Most things Tom thought of were implemented in later games.

Anyways, I had problems doing exactly that, because it's not possible to make an item that protects you and at the same time consumes ammo when you receive damage. Anyways, what I did was to use a custom PowerProtection for each one, and can be toggled on or off by pressing a key. It uses Shield Energy to work, and when you run out of it, it simply turns off until you get more of it. Energy cells give Cell ammo AND Shield energy.

[Project Shadowcat]

@PDF The blocking thing was not for you

Oh I know, but my statement still stands.

[hfc2x]

It's been some days I don't post anything...

I want to ask here because it gets more attention than in bugs or editing forums.
Anyone knows why does this graphical bug occur? I know it's the tutti frutti effect, but I didn't know it appeared in ZDoom too. This is the monorail car of Supply Depot 1.

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This shows the switch which activates the monorail and makes it go back to Lab (nevermind the default status bar):

On ZDoom's software renderer

On GZDoom's OpenGL renderer

Outside of the car on ZDoom

The same on GZDoom

The switch on Doom Builder

This is specially weird, as the textures don't even fit in the requirements listed in the Doom Wiki.

The switch texture is CGSWC01A, 16 units width and 24 tall. The gray textures are TH_EXIT1 (64 x 72).

[ShadesMaster]

Well I don't know if it's tutti fruitty per se, but it IS a weird bug nonetheless, and a good catch since I only use GZdoom pretty much LOL!!!!

[Sodaholic]

Don't know what to do about the texture bug, but I'd like to compliment you on the architecture, it looks very good! (the original version of the monorail car was really incomplete, for those of you who didn't know)