Wounded state & alternative behaviour

[InsaneFury]

I'm looking for a way to implement some kind of Mortal Kombat-'esque "finishing move".

Basically it'd go like this:

[zombieman see]
(player shoots)
[zombieman pain]
(player shoots)
[zombieman wounded]
(player uses chainsaw --> death1) OR (player uses rocketlauncher --> death2)

I noticed you can specify custom Wounded states per damagetype, but for this, I think I'd need a secondary wounded state?

Alternatively, it should be 'solvable' by creating a new actor and spawning it at the zombieman death state, but I'd rather have all behaviour combined in one actor. Would this be possible in any way?

I know it's possible to have Death.<Damagetype> and Wounded.<Damagetype> states, but the Death.<Damagetype> is used for the 'normal' Zombieman deaths, where the Wounded.<Damagetype> states would be useless as I want the actor to enter the Wounded state _before_ checking the DamageType after that.

[Chronos]

It should be easily done by ACS
So if health lower then enter some state(better not wounded if this state already exist)
after this you checks by which weapon actor was killed and makes zombieman enters proper state.
I may be wrong somewhere because i wasn't looking at this side of ACS but mechanics probably same.

[XutaWoo]

Or you could just have dummy inventory items with A_Give/TakeInventory and A_JumpIfInventory.

[InsaneFury]

Or you could just have dummy inventory items with A_Give/TakeInventory and A_JumpIfInventory.

How would that work exactly? I'd basically have all Wound.<damagetype> states give a custom inventoryitem corresponding to that damagetype to the actor, then the general Death states would check for such an item and play a different state?

I'm a bit hesitant to do ACS scripting if I don't need to; somehow I feel more comfortable with DECORATE (primarily because I've failed to compile all my ACS scripts as the compiler couldn't understand some Zdoom-specific code).

[XutaWoo]

Or you could just have dummy inventory items with A_Give/TakeInventory and A_JumpIfInventory.

How would that work exactly? I'd basically have all Wound.<damagetype> states give a custom inventoryitem corresponding to that damagetype to the actor, then the general Death states would check for such an item and play a different state?

Yar. Although if you want to have different fatalities for different weapons after the guy's been stunned, you'll still need a custom deathstate for that weapon; having different Wound states wouldn't actually do much unless you want all of the weapons to do the same fatality if the guy's been wounded by one weapon.

[InsaneFury]

Yar. Although if you want to have different fatalities for different weapons after the guy's been stunned, you'll still need a custom deathstate for that weapon; having different Wound states wouldn't actually do much unless you want all of the weapons to do the same fatality if the guy's been wounded by one weapon.

Ah, so I'd first have a generic Wounded give a custom IsWounded inventoryitem. And then create regular Death.<DamageType> states, but in those states I'd check if the IsWounded item is set: if it is, it'll play the 'fatality' scene and if not, it continues to the generic death state?

[XutaWoo]

Yep.

[InsaneFury]

I was wondering: is it possible to make a generic (monster-inherited) Wounded/Dizzy state which would reference the sprite used in the Pain state?

Inheriting a parent state is possible via DECORATE, but that inherits the parent's sprite too. Can this be circumvented, possibly using ACS?

Ideally, I want to make all (even custom) monsters susceptible to fatalities. Having a single spot to define the state, while still being able to use monster-specific sprites would be very convenient.

[XutaWoo]

Nope.

There's not even a way to define a base class for all monsters.

[Demolisher]

I was wondering: is it possible to make a generic (monster-inherited) Wounded/Dizzy state which would reference the sprite used in the Pain state?

Inheriting a parent state is possible via DECORATE, but that inherits the parent's sprite too. Can this be circumvented, possibly using ACS?

Ideally, I want to make all (even custom) monsters susceptible to fatalities. Having a single spot to define the state, while still being able to use monster-specific sprites would be very convenient.

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[Graf Zahl]

Massive hack indeed! There's certainly no better way to break your mod than to replace the internal class definitions.

[NeuralStunner]

Isn't that a planned feature/advantage of DoomScript though?

[InsaneFury]

One more question: Isn't there a DamageType for chainsaw damage/MOD_CHAINSAW?

[Project Shadowcat]

No, don't believe so. Just "Normal" if I remember right.

[Zetta]

Wow thats a pretty cool idea, can´t imagine how itwould be used though.