ZDoom 2.3.0 released

[ace]

FROCK YEAH!

*scurries back into dark corner*

[Remmirath]

Now, Doomscipt is next?

It will surely be implemented in version 18.3.0.

[skadoomer]

It will surely be implemented in version 18.3.0.

So soon?

UDMF is in its infancy right now but trust me, in the future, when UDMF features get used extensively, WA maps will look old.

But what will become of Zeth?

And whats is this about vertex lopes? What are they and why is everyone so excited?

[randi]

Pfft. ZETH hasn't been updated in years, either.

[ReX]

And whats is this about vertex lopes? What are they and why is everyone so excited?

Well, originally the intention was to make vertices just walk. But then Randy decided that a walking vertex would get boring very soon. Hence the decision to make them lope (sort of like wolves). Heh.

But all kidding aside, I'm guessing that vertex slopes are extensions of the current slope things that are attached to vertices to create sloped adjacent sectors. They will have z co-ordinate values that will have the same effect as the things. Also, it appears that vertices will be allowed to have both Zc and Zf (ceiling & floor) values, which would make sloped floors and ceilings easier to create.

[LilWhiteMouse]

Pfft. ZETH hasn't been updated in years, either.

I know. Until I *can't* use it, I'm not gonna stop though.

[Medricel]

But all kidding aside, I'm guessing that vertex slopes are extensions of the current slope things that are attached to vertices to create sloped adjacent sectors. They will have z co-ordinate values that will have the same effect as the things. Also, it appears that vertices will be allowed to have both Zc and Zf (ceiling & floor) values, which would make sloped floors and ceilings easier to create.

Correct. Vertex Slope things (See also their entry at the bottom of the [wiki]Slopes[/wiki] page) are things to slope triangular sectors. They are placed exactly over top of the vertex to modify, and use an absolute Z-height. However, they only slope sectors that have exactly three sides, no more. Even if multiple lines are collinear in a triangle-shaped sector, the sector will not be sloped. This limitation can also be used to disqualify specific sectors for slope application.

[Tubers]

Pfft. ZETH hasn't been updated in years, either.

I know. Until I *can't* use it, I'm not gonna stop though.

Since ZETH is rubbish someone should try something new

[ReX]

Since ZETH is rubbish someone should try something new

I understand that you were half-joking, but Zeth being "rubbish" is somewhat a matter of opinion. I know that you or Graf or someone else will jump all over this statement and point out various technical reasons that it's an "outdated POS". I won't deny any of those arguments; however, the bottom line is how the user applies the tool and how s/he has learned to overcome its various limitations. And in the end, what it boils down to is results: Has the application of an out-of-date tool resulted in a quality product? Are you or Graf or anyone else going to deny that LilWhiteMouse has produced superior work, despite sticking with an "outdated POS" "rubbish" tool?

I find myself in a similar situation, being a user of WadAuthor. Let me assure you and Graf and anyone else who wants to remind me that I am behind the times, that once I find it less convenient to use an old tool than to learn the use of a new one, I will readily switch. Until then, reminders that I continue to live in the twentieth century are needless goadings that fail to serve their purpose.

And by the way, there are many well-known literary authors who continue to use old-fashioned paper and pencil while aspiring to create their next masterpiece.

[Cutmanmike]

ReX, you should excuse Tuber's posts as he seems to just look at the latest post and reply without any thought.

[Curunir]

Cheers on the new release!

A question though. Am I the only one getting fatal error crashes on trying to load an autosave?

[Tubers]

ReX, you should excuse Tuber's posts as he seems to just look at the latest post and reply without any thought.

I was about to say the same really, I can't think right sometimes
Btw the plural is Tubers'
Though ReX has a point, old fashioned stuff can be appreciated.

[Pinky's ass]

Finally.

[Sagittaire]

Lovely! Just...lovely.
More stuff to play with.

Thanks a lot Randy, Graf.

Time to test this baby out!...

[Hirogen2]

A question though. Am I the only one getting fatal error crashes on trying to load an autosave?

Is an autosave specifically different from a manul save invoked via F6? 'Cause reloading from manual saves seem to work for me.