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Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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Re: Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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Of course.

Well, if you make a mod with a level that uses Doom 3 textures, and you distribute it, there are two possibilities:
1. You don't distribute the Doom 3 texture alongside it. You stay legal, but the level is unplayable.
2. You do distribute resources over which you do not have a copyright license, thereby breaking the law.

This doesn't apply just to Doom 3, it's true of every thing out there. Even outside of other games. If you do not have the right to copy, modify (or not) and distribute something, it is illegal to do so. It's even true for things like Doom 2 textures in Doom or vice-versa.

That's why people look for public domain or "creative common"-type resources, which they can use in their projects without having anything to fear.


Heck, technically even screenshots belong to the game's copyright holder. See the whole "Limbo of the Lost" fiasco for reference (okay, they also ripped sounds and movie clips).
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Of course, nobody cares if it's illegal. That why you see so many mods with Strife, Hexen, and Heretic graphics in DOOM.
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Don't forget Duke 3D, Blood, and Quake.

Can't forget the Quake textures! With their whopping SIXTEEN SHADES OF BROWN!

...I'm sorry, I just hate Quake's palatte with a passion. :P
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yea!!
the power of the rips will never die!!
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XutaWoo wrote:Of course, nobody cares if it's illegal. That why you see so many mods with Strife, Hexen, and Heretic graphics in DOOM.
Or certain wads with ALL of them. ;)
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Captain Ventris wrote:
XutaWoo wrote:Of course, nobody cares if it's illegal. That why you see so many mods with Strife, Hexen, and Heretic graphics in DOOM.
Or certain wads with ALL of them. ;)
:shrug:

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Most companies wouldn't care unless your product directly competes with theirs. I highly doubt id will think that a simply mod of a 15 year old game will compete with their products; at least in quality, not fun-factor. :P
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Re: Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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:shock: OMG, this smiley is back --> :P
Xutawoo wrote:Of course, nobody cares if it's illegal. That why you see so many mods with Strife, Hexen, and Heretic graphics in DOOM.
This. :P Agreed.
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Re: Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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And rips?
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Re: Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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How is it a different question?
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Re: Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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Simple, definitive answer:

It is technically illegal, but unless you do something incredibly out of the ordinary (i.e. make an IWAD), nobody will mind.
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Re: Use Doom 3 textures in Doom is illegal?

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Xaser wrote:Simple, definitive answer:

It is technically illegal, but unless you do something incredibly out of the ordinary (i.e. make an IWAD), nobody will mind.
Well said. That is the reason why I use time to hone my skills and don't rush anything, even if I usually feel like nothing's going to come out if I don't speed up the process. I hate ripping with passion but because this community is awesome incarnate and Z/GZDoom engines are.. well, awesome incarnate, I just try to keep my rage inside.

That is, if you want to make something unique and out of ordinary, you gotta do it yourself. And I do not mean only decorate, acs and mapping, but graphics too.

The project I have to give all the props is this uhm, what was it's name again.. Something about Tails? Really, it has alot of custom graphics which gives it a whole unique feeling and visuals. I don't personally like Sonic series but if you, maker of this project are reading this, I'd give you a hug for using time to create something... unique. Yeah, I use that word alot.

LOOK AT ME I'M STARTING ANOTHER FLAMEWAR I CAN SEE IT GO ON ATTACK :)

/nah
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Hasuak wrote:LOOK AT ME I'M STARTING ANOTHER FLAMEWAR I CAN SEE IT GO ON ATTACK :)
YOUR OPINION IS STUPID AND SO ARE YOU FOR FORMING IT

Kidding. I agree that custom content is the way to go, but for the artistically uninclined such as myself, I think it's alright, as long as the weapons/enemies you use the sprites for aren't like what you copied.
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Hasuak wrote:The project I have to give all the props is this uhm, what was it's name again.. Something about Tails? Really, it has alot of custom graphics which gives it a whole unique feeling and visuals. I don't personally like Sonic series but if you, maker of this project are reading this, I'd give you a hug for using time to create something... unique. Yeah, I use that word alot.

LOOK AT ME I'M STARTING ANOTHER FLAMEWAR I CAN SEE IT GO ON ATTACK :)

/nah
It's There's Something About Tails, and that would be me. :D
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