ÆoD (6.06.02 (03-14-16))

[Cardboard Marty]

Semi-related, I play Doom using the mouse with my left hand, with the right pressing buttons (I hate WASD, so I use arrow keys).

[zitro]

then I'm sorry, but shooter games are practically the games you're most handicapped in. This game is designed to be played with a mouse, so to play it, it's like saying I want to play a fighter game with one hand. I'll suck, and I'll be frustrated that I can't play it well due to that. At least you can enjoy it with cheats, so if you can type idbeholdv when you see a phoenix, you won't die.

btw, I'm lefty and use the mouse with my left hand.

Are you a fan of strategy games like civilization4/master of orionII/master of magic/heroes of might and magic series/age of wonders:SM , etc? you're wrist would be fine since you don't have to stress your wrist due to being turn based. With mods, these games can be fantastic. The "master of magic" mod would be released very soon and looks great.

[Enjay]

Huh? I don't follow that logic at all. Marty says he uses his mouse with his left hand and uses the arrows with his right. How on earth does that handicap him? For a lefty, that's a very natural way to play and WASD, in particular, would just be silly. (Or were you responding to the previous post?)

[DavidB1000]

Civ 4 Beyond the Sword is awesome. Especially some of the mods. You're forgetting though, my wrist brace, it's what keeps them and other games from destroying my right hand. I use the mouse with my right hand, and the key board in those games with left and right.

In doom, which I sorry to say was never designed to be only for the mouse, I use the keyboard, because I've been doing that for 17 years.

Hey, go play Morrowind or Oblivion, how can you use the WASD keys to move if you use the mouse left handed?

Enjay, I think he was talking about me and my weak hand.

[Enjay]

Yeah, reading your post again, it looks like it.

(Left mouse user here too BTW.)

[DavidB1000]

Hmm, Am I the only left handed person here who used the mouse with his right hand, because it feels more natural? I use my left hand for keyboard related work.

[Unknown_Assassin]

Hmm, Am I the only left handed person here who used the mouse with his right hand, because it feels more natural? I use my left hand for keyboard related work.

Nope. I'm left handed, but use the right hand for the mouse.

[zitro]

i found it odd, I associate right-handed people to use mouse with right hand, knife on right hand, etc.

i play with arrows, not with wasd and for the "this game was designed to play with a mouse", I meant somewhat more modern games: say Duke Nukem 3d and beyond, and especially challenging games like Unreal Tournament (online games). Since Zdoom uses the mouse like modern shooters, I felt there's no reason to not use the mouse if you could use it.

[Enjay]

I found my skills improved considerably when I switched to the left hand for my mouse and then increased again when I reversed the mouse buttons. Interestingly (to me anyway) I'm actually pretty ambidextrous and usually, and without problem, use the right-handed mouses, erm, mice? at my work. However, when I'm gaming, or doing something that needs fine motor control (level making, pixel work etc) I find it much easier and I get better results with my left hand on the mouse.

[DavidB1000]

Thank you Enjay, and Unkown for explaining things. I didn't really know that much beyond using the mouse the way I have.

As for Unreal Tournament, Okay, I use the same setup there as I do here, and I can kick bots ass...well, on the easiest anyway.

As for Duke Nukem 3d, sorry, I use keyboard there and I kick ass.
Like I said, go play a bunch of WASD games, and see how much unfun it would be.

[zitro]

now back on topic, something i said a couple of pages back before the mouse discusssion:

are DBT/Reiless/other coders interested in making a difficulty between the 1st and the 2nd? (like the standard 2nd difficulty) For me, I don't mind at all as I can handle plutonia on 3rd. However, there might be some players who would find the 2nd difficulty too much and the 1st difficulty too easy. Also, for to make Plutonia and various other difficult wads playable to not-so-experienced players (who can probably handle 3rd difficulty in normal wads)

The difference is twice as much damage, half ammo, about twice as hard in terms of monsters, and some items don't appear like in 1st. The only benefit is more hearts/weapons.

[SoulCrow]

Hmm, I feel sorry for you David that your mouse-hand is in such a state. Using the mouse is one of the things I take for granted in gaming everyday.

Also David, you might wanna learn to use XWE -- simply for viewing or editing things slightly. It can make your life a whole lot easier and save you from asking lots of little questions that you can find the answer to yourself.

Download XWE, open it, then open the .wad file that your dealing with. Look at the left-hand side of the screen for the list of the .wads contents, and most of the time you'll probably want DECORATE. Obviously, the .wad file might be contained within a .pk3 so extract it first. Using this method, you can look up small bits of information that you might want to know.
For example, the ACTOR name of the Pentagram is "PentagramOfProtection", which is the name you use for 'summoning'. You can even go look up exactly how much damage the Phoenix does! If it really bothers you, you can just edit it yourself with your own version, and continously edit it every time a new version is released.
-- However, with AEoD's .AED files, I usually just open them up in NotePad, works the same.

Now, as people have stated in the past, you do tend to post a bit too much. Most of the time, it isn't a problem, but when it does become an issue, you just gotta learn to step back and take a deep breath. Sometimes, just DO NOT reply. The other user might have insulted you, they might have defied you, and they might have utterly enraged you. However, just DO NOT reply. Some of the topics that you post in tend to be "David post, other user post, David post, other user post, David post, other user post"... just sometimes, stop posting. Of course, if it is actually adding something to the original topic then go ahead, but try not to reply to everypost, even the posts that are aimed at you.

Sometimes you have recognised this, and have stated "I will stop if they stop". Well, that probably isn't going to happen, and one of the sides of the argument is going to have to let up. It may not be fair, but sometimes that may be you. You can defuse the situation simply from refraining to post, even if the other side continues. I hope you understand what I'm getting at here.

[DavidB1000]

Very good points, And I will try to do them from now on. As for the poking around with XWE, I probably will do something with that, but not anytime today.

Ah, at least the mouse hand works, well, not without the brace all that well, but yeah.

And as you said, I should practice that ancient art of don't say anything. Not exactly something I was ever good at.

[dljosef]

One of my original ideas for the mod was to have leveled-up versions of the monsters. (Decorate-only, of course)

However, I'm thinking of how to make them have better attacks so that they stand out better as opposed to being just recolored versions... that and they spawn less often than their weaker counterparts. (One example of such is a Heresy Lord having that energy ball nova attack like the one in Titan did occasionally)

[DBThanatos]

@dljosef: That's where I have problems too. Everytime I make a decorate only monster, I sit to think for a little while about how i want it to be different than it's original version. In some cases (especially all my old monsters) I didnt manage to make them different, but in later creations, some health, speed, attack types, (or at least looks) and some other factor in conjunction made monsters differ enough from each other.

Sometimes what is needed is to sit a play something else, that can give you ideas, or even, watch some tv or something like that (it was "Avatar" (the cartoon, which my brother forced me to watch and now I like it) which inspired me to make the EarthElemental attacks ). So, when Im out of ideas, instead of force myself to come up with something, I just look for something else to do until my mind is clearer or until I get an idea from an external source.

@all the left hand discussion: I do use the right hand for the mouse, so I cant say much about it Still, I got lost how all that discussion started.