Linux progress

Post by **randi** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:22 pm

DD_133 wrote:Randy, what compiler is that?

Visual C++ 7.1 (aka Visual C++ .NET 2003). 7.0 looks the same.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:35 pm

Man, I had hardcore trouble while installing that on XP. Although it was probably a mega old version

QBasicer · Post by **QBasicer** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:26 am

I have never used any of the MS development tools for C/C++, mostly because it costs too much :\...

I have, however used VB 4, but have never owned it.

But that's getting off topic again, somewhat, we want to know about ZDoom for Linux...or at least I do.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:14 pm

*coughwarezcough*

eh? WHO SAID THAT?!

Post by **Chris** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:18 pm

The command-line compiler tools are free, FYI.. the IDE is still commercial (Relo can be made to work with VC, however).

Hirogen2 · Post by **Hirogen2** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:09 am

Heh they only made their compiler free because BCPP (Borland Command line) is free and MinGW is out there.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:11 am

So what? It doesn't matter why. The important thing is that they did.

QBasicer · Post by **QBasicer** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:16 am

Too bad we couldn't get Randy to use a free environment, so that there could be more people working on the code...then we could have CVS! And CVS would mean pre-releases...meaning previews, meaning a happier community...

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:22 am

Randy could as easily use CVS with VC if he wanted to. The fact that he doesn't want has nothing to do with using a commercial IDE.

If you ask professional programmers you will see that most working for Windows use VC++. Not because it's from Microsoft but because they think it's the best. Everyone I know thinks so.

I checked several commercial IDE's and I have to say that most simply suck. And I don't even want to talk about the free ones...

QBasicer · Post by **QBasicer** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:27 am

So if I said that Randy does not use any exculsive libaries or includes into ZDoom, and it would compile on Windows with MingW, with the DX libs? Dev-C++?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:45 am

It should. All it uses are some functions of C's standard runtime library and of course the Windows DLLs. AFAIK the only potential problem is the structured exception handling ZDoom uses to get its crash log. That will probably not work with another compiler.

QBasicer · Post by **QBasicer** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:04 am

So is that integrated heavly, or is that just included, and easy to remove?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:30 am

It's #ifdef'd so that it can compile with GCC.

Post by **randi** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:01 pm

Graf Zahl wrote:[Structured exception handling] will probably not work with another compiler.

Actually, I think GCC is the only popular Windows compiler that does not support it.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:56 pm

That was the 'another compiler' I was talking about...