Psxdoom

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:20 am

Sweet, how'd you rip those anyway?

Post by **Enjay** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:22 am

In case it is of interest, Kaiser has a thread over at Doomworld (the Doom console hacking project - or similar). The thrust there, I think, is to try and make the console ports of Doom moddable but a number of resources have been posted in that thread.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/3 ... ole-specs/

Page 2 has some links to HUD graphics.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:23 am

Ah... well in that case couldn't the ssg be ripped using those methods, save me spamming screenshots?

Edit: Bah, looked at the thread and waddya know:

http://home.houston.rr.com/svkaiser/Doom/STATUS.BMP

DoomKn1ght · Post by **DoomKn1ght** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:19 pm

good news, thanks to Kaiser and psxmake I have found a way
of putting psx exact rvb value to sector I converted the psx color chart
to 255 sectorset_color I know this use the 255 tags but you
can choose a gray neutrall color tag for sector that must be triggered
I think this is the best and fastest way to do it even if you must
retag some sector that must be triggered I make 2 demo level
map01 and map24 because a lot of color in this one

http://www.zshare.net/download/444880750a719d/

Dont mind if there is bug I must fix bug dues to tag and zwadconv
anyway this look really nice in gl bit less in software
and an otherremark these map could be different from your version of psxdoombecause they come from european one
play this with psx ultra wad enjoy
check the doomworld thread for info about recoloring.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/3 ... ole-specs/

[edit] it's a bit different than the psxdoom feeling personnaly i found
the map bigger in psxdoom i supect psxdoom to have a different
fov I dont know if zdoom have fov and zoom fov settings.

Post by **Enjay** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:45 pm

DoomKn1ght wrote:http://www.zshare.net/download/444880750a719d/

Well that looks pretty good to me. They did a lot of sector colouring in PSX Doom didn't they.

I remember being impressed by that the first time I saw it. It also helps to hide the lack of detail in some levels.

DoomKn1ght · Post by **DoomKn1ght** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:02 pm

I forgot to mention that there is an acs library in this pk3
called PSXCOLOR (untested) but I think it can be better than put all
the sector set color in every map like this is done in this pk3
put #include "PSXCOLOR.acs" can be sufficient even if I don't tested it yet.

Chris Neilson · Post by **Chris Neilson** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:47 pm

DoomKn1ght wrote:good news, thanks to Kaiser and psxmake I have found a way
of putting psx exact rvb value to sector I converted the psx color chart
to 255 sectorset_color I know this use the 255 tags but you
can choose a gray neutrall color tag for sector that must be triggered
I think this is the best and fastest way to do it even if you must
retag some sector that must be triggered I make 2 demo level
map01 and map24 because a lot of color in this one

http://www.zshare.net/download/444880750a719d/

Dont mind if there is bug I must fix bug dues to tag and zwadconv
anyway this look really nice in gl bit less in software
and an otherremark these map could be different from your version of psxdoombecause they come from european one
play this with psx ultra wad enjoy
check the doomworld thread for info about recoloring.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/3 ... ole-specs/

[edit] it's a bit different than the psxdoom feeling personnaly i found
the map bigger in psxdoom i supect psxdoom to have a different
fov I dont know if zdoom have fov and zoom fov settings.

DoomKn1ght wrote:I forgot to mention that there is an acs library in this pk3
called PSXCOLOR (untested) but I think it can be better than put all
the sector set color in every map like this is done in this pk3
put #include "PSXCOLOR.acs" can be sufficient even if I don't tested it yet.

Psxcolor.acs this awsomez made color in sector. thank

Post by **Gez** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:52 pm

I wonder if, with the technical informations and specs given by Kaiser, it would be possible to adapt ZDoom to be able to play PSX Doom directly... The sector format is different, but it should be possible to do an on-the-fly conversion just like ZDoom already does anyway to turn a normal Doom map into the ZDoom-Hexen format. Adding support for the LIGHTS lump wouldn't be too hard: the biggest issue there would be to get a way to add sector colors without going through ACS but during the map conversion step. The three new creature flags would be another problem, though. And of course, support for PSXDoom's graphic and music formats would have to be written (as well as the dynamic fire texture that is used for the fire sky effect).

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:38 pm

Gez wrote:I wonder if, with the technical informations and specs given by Kaiser, it would be possible to adapt ZDoom to be able to play PSX Doom directly...

I find this highly doubtful. First, where's the demand? While some people might like the PSX version, most prefer the PC version of the game which ZDoom already supports. Second, where're the files? AFAIK, the only way to get hold of these is to rip the game disc, which most people won't have. Implementing this feature might actually encourage piracy... Third, given that it's doubtful that there are many custom levels for this, the only thing gained from this would be one (or two) level sets. Finally, it should be a faily simple process to recreate the game in ZDoom as-is.

I just don't see this being worth randy or Graf's time.

Post by **Gez** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:45 pm

HotWax wrote:I just don't see this being worth randy or Graf's time.

I never said that. It was idle curiosity on whether what Kaiser has found would be enough.

As for encouraging piracy, I'm of the opinion that distributing a converted rip is much more blatant piracy anyway...

DoomKn1ght · Post by **DoomKn1ght** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:58 pm

I know that Kaiser is thinking on modified port to run psx doom map
directly on pc but as far as I know he is finishing other of his project
first He still need to choose the right port but I think it will be
Doomsday or risen3D
-he has already done absolution with it
-and doomsday lightning look a bit better than gzdoom/skulltag(without offense)
-in doomsday/Risen3D you can set fov refer what i said above
-lots of features that can easily ehance low detail level:(radiosity,
detail texture,model,dynamic light on texture)I just imagine psx doom with this .

the biggest issue there would be to get a way to add sector colors without going through ACS but during the map conversion step.

sector rvb lightning instead of simple light.so it simply support psx doom map format. (GL port only because zdoom is only 8 bit)

The three new creature flags would be another problem

maybe do a decoprate pack with all monster.

And of course, support for PSXDoom's graphic and music formats would have to be written (as well as the dynamic fire texture that is used for the fire sky effect).

Kaiser said in doomworld that this can be get if you check psxdoom.exe
with a hexeditor
you just gave me an idea about psxdoom music insofar as the music
is composed with some sound sample played in sequence what I think is
to do a new extension file type which will be sound sequence file
for example .psdm(psxdoom music) or whatever you want
but u have to hack the psx doom exe to have the exact sound sequence
or create custom psxdoom music

However i think everybody thought of that and I dont know anything
about hex editing and c/c++ programming
I prefer personnaly do this for zdoom so it can be played in coop/dm
for skulltag.

[edit]Kaiser said:

I converted the title screen before, so I should be able to do that, and yes, the FOV is slightly higher in psxdoom, which explains why the levels appear 'large'.

Also, bear in mind that not all colors will look good because Doom/Zdoom/whatever still uses a 8-bit color palette while PSXDoom was full 3D and is 16-bit, not 8-bit, so it did a better job blending colors. But you can get away with using a GL-based source port.

Post by **Gez** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:24 pm

You can change FOV in ZDoom. It's a cvar. There's been quite a few scope mods based on console aliases.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:27 pm

But nothing that change change FOV automaticly for you.

DoomKn1ght · Post by **DoomKn1ght** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:33 pm

I'm of the opinion that distributing a converted rip is much more blatant piracy anyway...

In fact thats why I esitate releasing the whole thing or do this for myself
oh yes all the levels are already released

a tc played by fan is different that sell mass piracy for money.
and all the and all wad will be illegal especially those who use
hexen texture quake resident evil etc.
however i don't know to much.
maybe doom will became an abbandonware in the future.

[edit]

But nothing that change change FOV automaticly for you.

I'll check feature thread for see what zdoom/gzdoom/skulltag devs think but this already be suggested mapinfo or acs fov and zoom fov

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:27 pm

DoomKn1ght wrote:http://www.zshare.net/download/444880750a719d/

For future reference, could you please upload your files to a site that isn't full of fail?