A musical idea

Mighty Duck X-treme · Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:22 am

HotWax wrote:Ogg Vorbis is a lossy form of compression, i.e. not 100% accurate. MP3 is a lossless form. So, I don't know where you get off saying .ogg sounds better.

http://www.vorbis.com

Not gonna argue about it, but MP3 and Vorbis are BOTH lossy.

Monkey's Audio is completely lossless, so it sounds PERFECT.

However, Monkey's Audio uses a lot of space, so if you're concerned about hard drive usage (like me; mine has a 60 GB capacity and I've got 40.0 GB of space left), DO NOT USE MONKEY'S AUDIO.

I encode music to the .ogg formet at 128kbps, which makes the .ogg format a reasonable size and it still sounds good.

Do I make myself clear?

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:36 am

"Not gonna argue about it, but MP3 and Vorbis are BOTH lossy."

Hrm, I was under the impression that ogg was smaller because it was lossy, so logically MP3 would be larger for the opposite reason.

Oh well, that's what I get for not doing my homework first.

Mighty Duck X-treme · Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:46 am

The smaller the .ogg file is (depending on how long the song lasts), the more lossy it is.

Post by **wildweasel** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:53 am

When it comes to game music, I prefer OGG format compressed at 128 kilobytes per second. I tested this - using both the Vorbis encoder as well as the LameMP3 encoder, I compressed track #23 (if I remember right) from the Mechwarrior 2 CD. The OGG came out around 100-some KB less. Not much normally, but a big difference in the longrun.

bimshwel · Post by **bimshwel** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:24 pm

Maybe I'm just strange, but whenever I save something as empeethree, somewhere along the line a blank space is inserted at the start of the file, preventing it from looping properly. The other format has not exhibited that issue.

Hirogen2 · Post by **Hirogen2** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:34 pm

HotWax wrote:Ogg Vorbis is a lossy form of compression, i.e. not 100% accurate. MP3 is a lossless form. So, I don't know where you get off saying .ogg sounds better.

Go encode some sound source to: 1. 48kbps MP3, 2. 48kbps OGG. You'll hear the
difference.If you can hear that.

And if you are in need of a lossless audio encoder, see http://flac.sf.net,
though it only has a ratio of 0.6 (whereas MP3/OGG get near to 0.1).

Mighty Duck X-treme · Post by **Mighty Duck X-treme** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:06 pm

Hirogen2 wrote:[url]http://flac.sf.net,[/url]

You fail it! Your skill is not enough! See you next time! Bye bye!

Hirogen2 · Post by **Hirogen2** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:12 am

Mighty Duck X-treme wrote:
Hirogen2 wrote:[url]http://flac.sf.net,[/url]
You fail it! Your skill is not enough! See you next time! Bye bye!

Stupid forum software.

Mighty Duck X-treme · Post by **Mighty Duck X-treme** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:56 am

*Pat pat*

Don't let yourself down like THAT. Just try harder next time.

Fredrik · Post by **Fredrik** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:37 pm

HotWax wrote:Ogg Vorbis is a lossy form of compression, i.e. not 100% accurate. MP3 is a lossless form. So, I don't know where you get off saying .ogg sounds better.

Ogg Vorbis sounds better because it's *less* lossy than MP3, captain quickthinky

timmie · Post by **timmie** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:47 am

actually, mp3 is very lossy.

Hirogen2 · Post by **Hirogen2** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:38 am

timmie wrote:actually, mp3 is very lossy.

Only RA and WMA are more lossy.