The Great Experiment

[Cutmanmike]

Well it's neat but strategy doesn't isn't in my gaming vocabulary. Ahh how I miss those RPGmaker graphics though

[LilWhiteMouse]

I've added a bonus that makes surrounding units invulnerable (but not you, ala Bittersweet's Faith Bearer), and powers up your weapon. It's basically a rip of Heretic's tomed crossbow, but all three of your bolts also do ripper damage. I can't figure out how to make it available though. I don't want it to be a random drop, that much I know. I thought about implementing the score system, and have it given to you at certain increments, but I'm undetermined on that. Any suggestions?

[Matt]

[brainstorm]

- Make it appear at the nearest base when your health is very low, say <15%
- Make it a usable inventory item that costs 80+ points to activate
- Make it part of a "sudden death" mode that happens after the timer runs out
- Make it appear after the player personally kills enough units
- Make it appear after the player's units kill enough units without the player themselves firing a shot
- Make it appear at any base that's down to its last blue flag to let the player make one final defence

[LilWhiteMouse]

- Make it appear at any base that's down to its last blue flag to let the player make one final defence

I went with this, but also has the requirement that the player has less then 15 recruitment points.

The map now ends when all bases and enemies are defeated, and goes to a basic tally screen. I've also implemented the enemy general, who appears when the allies have more bases then the enemy. Once defeated, he'll reappear after a minute under the same circumstances.

Anyone want an updated version?

[Penguinator]

Anyone want an updated version?

Heck yesh. I love this project. Most original(Doom) project I've ever played.

[Tormentor667]

This looks really promising but I recommend: Do not use RTP Resources

[LilWhiteMouse]

http://home.midmaine.com/~lilwhitemo/Qc150307.zip

XWE corrupted one of the source wads so I had to rebuild a few things. Not sure if I missed anything, but a quick run through seemed fine.

The music is temporary, I haven't been able to find anything I'm happy with. I'm almost content with it, just a few things left I want to do and I'll send it off to the archive.

[EDIT] My tally screen from my last session.
http://home.midmaine.com/~lilwhitemo/tallyscreen.png
I didn't actually recruit any amazons, it's a bug since the first version that for the life of me I can't track down.

[Matt]

Just beat it today... so there is a use for units other than phalanx and lancer XD

One last thing you might consider: maybe the enemy general could be a bit smaller? He seems a little out of place... (I like the balance, though: he's easy to deal with as a player, but leave him alone and he can do considerable damage to your forces...)

That, and possibly some player sprites in case someone hits the chasecam...

I also have to mention that this is the first RTS I've *ever* played that gave you a ground-level view of the battle. I'm surprised at how much of a visceral difference that made for me in terms of actually caring about what was going on in the game...

So does the "parent" project play similarly, or is it more focussed on a single unit?

@Tormentor667: RTP?

[hnsolo77]

Vaecrius he's talking about graphics/sounds/music used for RPGMaker games, and also you need an RTP pack to run those games as well

[Sekto]

LWM nice
check out http://charas-project.net/resources.php ... 0&fsearch=
for recources

the enemies can fade out on death?

[LilWhiteMouse]

Just beat it today... so there is a use for units other than phalanx and lancer XD

Sages are a wonder for clearing out masses of enemies, but once they get within melee range it's over for them. Witches are fast movers, handly for taking over enemy bases the player alone has overrun.

That, and possibly some player sprites in case someone hits the chasecam...

Will do, just hasn't been a high priority.

So does the "parent" project play similarly, or is it more focussed on a single unit?

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It's a different theme. It's less centered on army vs army and more on supporting your own unit. If a detatchment is wiped out, it'll be replaced shortly automatically, but you'll take a hit in moral which determines the battle outcome. It's the players job to support her unit by healing wounded soldiers, and taking on the bigger demons the infantry might not be able to handle on their own. Take the same basic map, cover 3/4 of it with respawning demons, and they're all after you and your 15 allies. Instead of bases, your side get's landing points for your landers, and the enemies just impact as meteors anywhere on the map. Said meteors are launched from a demon planet now orbiting your own, as was a massive meteor that contains the Harbringer megademon headed for your home city.

The city map plays differently though, as the Harbringer slaughters your units. You simply have to use them as cover to pick it off yourself. Doesn't help that the buildings are destructible, and the Harbringer makes short work of them. It's a bit unnerving to hide behind a corner waiting for your barrier to reset, and the resupply vehicle to show up, only to have the building come crashing down in front of you. Peek-a-boo, I see you! ZAP!

While too big and slow to evade a cyberdemon at anything but long range, the player wouldn't worry too much as she could still kill him before it killed her. The Harbringer's arsenal is a bit harder to deal with though.

[LilWhiteMouse]

Just a status update bump.

- I've added simple player sprites, just so you're not starting at the Doom marine.
- The enemy general has been half scaled.
- The auto accumilation of recruitment points is based on skill now. Lower skills will accumilate points faster, while higher skills are slower. Normal skill keeps it the way it's been.
- I thought about adding a sword, to give the player a more powerful attack. Personally though, I wouldn't want to get that close to enemies in this project. Would anyone even use it?

[LilWhiteMouse]

BUMP

If anyone has a copy of this, could they give it a whirl in a recent ZDoom SVN? None of the units are attacking anything, and I can't figure out why. I don't know if it's something I did or what. They'll chase each other down, but never enter their Melee/Missile states.

[Matt]

If anyone has a copy of this

Ahh, so here's where the thread went!

I don't have a copy myself... can you upload the current version?

[Unknown_Assassin]

I haven't seen this, but I'll gladly try to figure out the problem.