Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0a

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New (new) gyro sprites look even better, higher contrast paint like the first revamp, without the Christmas tinsel and garland. The orange safety cap on the bottom helps make it pop out against the environment. But I have to comment that, in a good way, the protruded fins and dark gray color are making me think of the Batmobile now (which, ironically, is also another thing that has gone through a whole slew of design revamps.) But overall this version is pretty solid!

Bug: the language changes have made the IED commands for detonate, passive mode, and active mode no longer print the old informational messages, but the tag described for translation. Query still prints the message fine as it wasn't touched.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0a

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...... oh

yeah that's not all

Making a note to verify if someone has at least tried to learn at least 2 languages that are not English before accepting their localization-related PR lmao
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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NEW UPDATE!
Highlights of changes:
  • New hdskin.minvpitch and hdskin.maxvpitch properties now let you control the range of player pitches. Leave undefined or set to zero for default behaviour (0.7-1.3).
  • New berserk, stim and potion effects and lore to match the new Freedoom sprites!
  • New skin options that let you override - or extend - the player's voice pitch settings.
  • Dormant monsters can no longer be awakened by taunts.
  • Friendly monsters no longer get stuck in loops retargeting players.
  • D.E.R.P. can be set by the mapper to patrol again.
  • The dirty window system now simply deletes blockers where they're in the same sector as a switch or door.
  • Numerous strings are now localizable.
  • New rocket grenade and battery sprites.
  • Rockets now soft-launch.
  • Menu much easier to scroll quickly.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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Thank you for 16 years of HD, Matt! I don't have the best memory of the original trailer that's now long-gone, but hopefully this makes a serviceable substitute.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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i legit have a 1008 word document i wrote on this game and it's all thanks to the roll mechanic not putting out the fire. Pls fix.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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I have to say, this mod is amazing on the technical level. The advanced manipulation of all the different weapons feels pretty rewarding once you get used to the controls. Not to mention the gritty feel of having to patch up your own wounds or jab yourself with adrenaline.

It's also quite punishing. Being too slow on the draw, not patching up your wounds fast enough or simply being unlucky with enemy encounters will end the level right then and there. You really have to be patient and methodical to survive even the most basic levels.

Just one thing left me with a bitter aftertaste. One of the posted in-game tips about gender rights. I fully agree the author is entitled to their opinion, as far as that subject is concerned. However, I play games, among other things, for escapism. When I get statements of that kind thrown at me in-between levels, it feels preachy and, frankly, it's a mood killer and makes me want to stop playing the game entirely, which seems counter-productive to the purpose of making a gameplay mod at all.

I understand that people need to get it out there, for various reasons they feel are legitimate but I don't think a game is the proper place for such a thing.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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Dudejo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:07 pmJust one thing left me with a bitter aftertaste. One of the posted in-game tips about gender rights. I fully agree the author is entitled to their opinion, as far as that subject is concerned. However, I play games, among other things, for escapism. When I get statements of that kind thrown at me in-between levels, it feels preachy and, frankly, it's a mood killer and makes me want to stop playing the game entirely, which seems counter-productive to the purpose of making a gameplay mod at all.

I understand that people need to get it out there, for various reasons they feel are legitimate but I don't think a game is the proper place for such a thing.
<moderator hat on>
I approved the previous post from the new-user queue because it seems the poster is not malicious, even though I disagree with their sentiment. The post has, predictably, been reported as "inflammatory", so I feel compelled to address it officially instead of letting the discussion run its natural course. I don't necessarily believe in silencing people, so long as they're not being straight-up hateful, which I don't think is the case here. Regardless, anything on this topic that descends into a debate and/or actual bigotry will likely get split/deleted in short order.
</moderator hat off>

Dudejo, you'll probably find in short order that the prevailing attitude on these forums is pretty progressive in regards to things like gender equality. Moreover, Hideous Destructor's overall lore is generally somewhat political, even outside this issue. As you noted, it's the author's prerogative to include that if they desire. If it bothers you that much you can disable or ignore the helptext, though I would encourage some introspection and personal growth instead. Queer people exist and have natural rights. If you take issue with a mod mildly pointing that out, you're probably gonna have a bad time.

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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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Dudejo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:07 pm I have to say, this mod is amazing on the technical level. The advanced manipulation of all the different weapons feels pretty rewarding once you get used to the controls. Not to mention the gritty feel of having to patch up your own wounds or jab yourself with adrenaline.

It's also quite punishing. Being too slow on the draw, not patching up your wounds fast enough or simply being unlucky with enemy encounters will end the level right then and there. You really have to be patient and methodical to survive even the most basic levels.

Just one thing left me with a bitter aftertaste. One of the posted in-game tips about gender rights. I fully agree the author is entitled to their opinion, as far as that subject is concerned. However, I play games, among other things, for escapism. When I get statements of that kind thrown at me in-between levels, it feels preachy and, frankly, it's a mood killer and makes me want to stop playing the game entirely, which seems counter-productive to the purpose of making a gameplay mod at all.

I understand that people need to get it out there, for various reasons they feel are legitimate but I don't think a game is the proper place for such a thing.
Believe me, it gets way worse. Just take a look at this commit.
https://codeberg.org/mc776/HideousDestr ... ad15e96f3e
My opinion of Matt wasn't very high before I saw this commit a year ago, but I have never been more disgusted in my entire life.
Seriously, Matt, go fuck yourself.

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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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@cyber_coll and whoever else reads this

If anyone feels the need to discuss stuff like this with me, please use the PM system. Or link me to an off-topic forum.

Whether or not you agree with the author's perceptions and opinions, I won't discuss the subject further within this forum post. I only brought it up the purposes of a mod review and I don't intend to encourage getting this post derailed.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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Dudejo wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:22 pm @cyber_coll and whoever else reads this

If anyone feels the need to discuss stuff like this with me, please use the PM system. Or link me to an off-topic forum.

Whether or not you agree with the author's perceptions and opinions, I won't discuss the subject further within this forum post. I only brought it up the purposes of a mod review and I don't intend to encourage getting this post derailed.
If you post public feedback, expect public responses.

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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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For what it's worth, that tip predates the mass conscriptions.
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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There's a really cool mod that removes these tips!
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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Dudejo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:07 pm Just one thing left me with a bitter aftertaste. One of the posted in-game tips about gender rights. I fully agree the author is entitled to their opinion, as far as that subject is concerned. However, I play games, among other things, for escapism. When I get statements of that kind thrown at me in-between levels, it feels preachy and, frankly, it's a mood killer and makes me want to stop playing the game entirely, which seems counter-productive to the purpose of making a gameplay mod at all.

I understand that people need to get it out there, for various reasons they feel are legitimate but I don't think a game is the proper place for such a thing.
or you could just turn the help text off in the menu, since any tip breaks MUH IMMERSION

or you could just edit tips.zs in slade, and put whatever hateful shit you like in there
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

Post by Leon-wolfren »

Is there a tutorial anywhere for this and a good one this mod is so confusing to me
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Re: Hideous Destructor 4.10.0b

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There's a manual included in the archive that details everything, and the community has made videos and practice maps over the years. Some of it might be a pinch outdated here and there, but the basics are still the same.
https://codeberg.org/mc776/hideousdestr ... _manual.md
https://codeberg.org/mc776/HideousDestr ... nonfree.md
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSssmjAE7xI
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