Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Title. Most of the modders I know are usually helpful, empathetic and overall nice people. I think it may have something to do with creating something without expecting anything in return. Similarly, most catpeople and planties around me are like this too. Toxic kind of people are really rare among these folks.
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Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Smart people are nice. Smart people want to see more smart people around so they help. More smart people = easier life and more mods.
Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Smart has nothing to do with nice, not sure where you got that idea.Darkcrafter wrote:Smart people are nice. Smart people want to see more smart people around so they help. More smart people = easier life and more mods.
Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Smart doesn't necessarily mean nice, but smart people usually know how to cooperate with people, which comes off as nice.
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Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Well, modding is an art pretty damn dependent on others. I mean, you can learn how to use a map editor, to use the game's scripting language, to make sprites and/or models, to record and edit sounds, and to write music all on your own with no help, but are you, really? Are you even really going to do all of those things at once? It takes a lot of time, effort, and energy to be good at just one of those, and if you're working on stuff just out of passion, you're probably not gonna have enough of that passion to get that good.
So, you make use of resources others have left for you. You might not even start out with much original to you, but by poking and prodding with the stuff others have already done, you can become more familiar with the methods that the creators have done, adapt them to your own way of thinking, and grow from there. And even as you do that, you'll probably still be reliant on others' resources to cover your weakpoints, and to come up with ideas you wouldn't have had alone.
This sense of community is self-propagating, too. Someone who grew by using the stuff others allotted them will be more willing to share their own stuff, because they know the struggle and know how much a helping hand can make things so much easier. Not to mention that a community full of sharing leads to a community full of sharing thoughts, and it can become a source of self-esteem to see others enjoy your works, or even just interacting with it in a meaningful way.
It's the sort of thing where modders have to be nice, or else there just ... wouldn't be a community. Everyone's here to enjoy themselves by making stuff that others can enjoy, too, so they don't like being around here, or don't get the feeling their stuff is being appreciated, or don't feel like anyone has any desire to help them ... they just won't stick around. There wouldn't be a point, aside from maybe staying in contact with some friends they don't know otherwise.
So, you make use of resources others have left for you. You might not even start out with much original to you, but by poking and prodding with the stuff others have already done, you can become more familiar with the methods that the creators have done, adapt them to your own way of thinking, and grow from there. And even as you do that, you'll probably still be reliant on others' resources to cover your weakpoints, and to come up with ideas you wouldn't have had alone.
This sense of community is self-propagating, too. Someone who grew by using the stuff others allotted them will be more willing to share their own stuff, because they know the struggle and know how much a helping hand can make things so much easier. Not to mention that a community full of sharing leads to a community full of sharing thoughts, and it can become a source of self-esteem to see others enjoy your works, or even just interacting with it in a meaningful way.
It's the sort of thing where modders have to be nice, or else there just ... wouldn't be a community. Everyone's here to enjoy themselves by making stuff that others can enjoy, too, so they don't like being around here, or don't get the feeling their stuff is being appreciated, or don't feel like anyone has any desire to help them ... they just won't stick around. There wouldn't be a point, aside from maybe staying in contact with some friends they don't know otherwise.
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Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
When it comes to any modding community, I feel you can't afford to be much of an asshole. It's the same principle as in the music/art/whatever business - the nice people are the ones that get the jobs. The modding scene is essentially a melting pot of different art-/game-related disciplines, so I'd say you can afford to be even less of an asshole if you're a modder.
Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
If you want people to play in your sandbox you have to be nice or a Finnish kernel developer.
Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Most people are nice. It's just that the few that aren't are very, very visible.
That said, modding, especially in a relatively small community, is a social thing. If you're a nice person, people who know you as a nice person are more likely to want to play your mods and give you praise and useful feedback, which is what you presumably want in return. And this is especially true I think for a game like Doom, where by its very nature you're not likely to just play the same mods over and over again, because in my experience it's when you can get to a situation that your mod start being seen as The Real Way To Play The Game™ that often things go wrong; but that's more likely to happen in sandbox games, whatever the genre (be it first person action RPG like Skyrim or 2D platforming like Starbound or whatever else).
That said, modding, especially in a relatively small community, is a social thing. If you're a nice person, people who know you as a nice person are more likely to want to play your mods and give you praise and useful feedback, which is what you presumably want in return. And this is especially true I think for a game like Doom, where by its very nature you're not likely to just play the same mods over and over again, because in my experience it's when you can get to a situation that your mod start being seen as The Real Way To Play The Game™ that often things go wrong; but that's more likely to happen in sandbox games, whatever the genre (be it first person action RPG like Skyrim or 2D platforming like Starbound or whatever else).
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Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Beta males usually come across as nice.
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Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
You offend me, I'm Release Candidate already.maltman wrote:Beta males usually come across as nice.
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Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
ah, yes, this is something that a quality human being would ever saymaltman wrote:Beta males usually come across as nice.
Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
In my experience they are so insecure about themselves that they come across as the rudest ones.maltman wrote:Beta males usually come across as nice.


Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Well, most of them are way more intelligent than the "plebs", and intelligent people are a lot more understanding, quiet and calm.
Of course, there are exceptions.
BTW, I'm a totally omega-male and I'm nice
Of course, there are exceptions.
BTW, I'm a totally omega-male and I'm nice

Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
Not even alpha or beta or gamma? pfff........Reactor wrote: BTW, I'm a totally omega-male and I'm nice
Re: Why most of the modders are usually nice guys/gals?
I am not entertaining this...Reactor wrote: BTW, I'm a totally omega-male and I'm nice
My closer friends know why I have problems with people identifying themselves as "alpha" or "beta" or "omega" or what have you. It's an unnecessary label and constrains you in the ways that you can express yourself. Better to be rid of them completely.
If you can't take charge at the right times, and if you can't learn to follow at the other right times, then it's a big problem. You need to learn how to do both.