[SOLVED] [DEC] How the hell do I stop vanilla weapons from appearing?

[yum13241]

So I'm making mod that aims to be compatible with Doom and Chex Quest (because my brothers enjoy it) and I also aim for Zandronum compatibility because online is fun. The way I achieve Chex Quest compatibility is with a separate mod.

I have 2 issues:

1. In both Zandronum and GZDoom, when you type IDKFA (or IDFA), the game gives you vanilla weapons.
2. In GZDoom, the Game keyword seems to be ignored, as I also get "Chex Quest" weapons in Doom, and vice versa.

Stuff I've tried:
1. Filter folders. They don't work with Zandronum.
2. Player class weapon slots. They don't seem to prevent you from selecting unspecified weapons.
3. KEYCONF. This stops you from being able to select the weapons, but doesn't prevent them from being given (which ruins stuff like the AltHUD). Using KEYCONF to do this is also deprecated.
4. An ACS script that walks through a predefined array of both Doom and Chex Quest weapons. No matter what I try, it just doesn't work. If it doesn't give me a runaway error, it still doesn't work (I'm an ACS noob ok)

Mod files:
Main Mod Nope.
Chex Quest Addon Nope.


And before you ask, yes, I am using the replaces keyword with each weapon like I'm supposed to.

[merlin86]

Not a DECORATE expert but have you looked at Samsara? I know it has player classes and it's designed to be used in multiplayer.

And yes IDKFA / IDFA giving all the weapons should be that by design.

ACS "runway error" is because it's a loop , you should put a delay at the end.

[yum13241]

Not a DECORATE expert but have you looked at Samsara? I know it has player classes and it's designed to be used in multiplayer.

The classes here aren't for actual Hexen-style classes like the Fighter/Mage/Cleric, it's purely so I can assign appropriate start items and weapon slots for each game. With the way the mod is structured, only the appropriate class is allowed for each game.
Hell, in another mod I'm working on that uses ZScript I've completely eschewed player classes (for now), since I have an event handler to do stuff that I'd use player classes for.

I'll still be sure to take a look at Samsara some time.

And yes IDKFA / IDFA giving all the weapons should be that by design.

You missed the point, cheats aren't supposed to give replaced items, and definitely not items from other games, otherwise typing give all in the console would give you Heretic weapons in Doom, which is obviously stupid.

ACS "runway error" is because it's a loop , you should put a delay at the end.

I have added more Delay(1);s than any one can count, but as usual, things never seem to work on the first try. Larger values don't seem to help, at least the last time I tried. I'm not at my computer though, so I can't test for sure.

Either way, thanks for the suggestions/

[Enjay]

You missed the point, cheats aren't supposed to give replaced items, and definitely not items from other games, otherwise typing give all in the console would give you Heretic weapons in Doom, which is obviously stupid.

"replaces" is for replacing actors that spawn in the world. You can still have replaced items in your inventory.
If the heretic weapons had sprites, then give all would indeed give them in Doom. Of course, to cycle through them in the normal way, they would still need to be allocated to a slot, but even with out that you could type use WeaponName and you would change to it.

Unless you remove the weapon sprites, the weapons will have the potential to be there.

However, if you create a custom player class that does not have the Doom weapons allocated to any of the weapon slots, players couldn't accidentally switch to them using the normal methods.

As for the AltHUD, that is configurable and you can set it so that certain items do not appear. https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:AltHUD
There also used to be a lump called AltHUDCfg which could be used to configure the standard althud, but I don't see that in the wiki, so maybe it's been deprecated?

[yum13241]

Thanks for the help, but between you writing your reply and me seeing it (since I was able to get to my computer in the mean time), I tried out stuff and it seems that:

a. I was using VisibleToPlayerClass when all that does it hide from listed player classes, and I felt it was doing more harm than good.
b. I started using Inventory.RestrictedTo <class1>, <class2> along with Inventory.ForbiddenTo <class3>, which fixed things.

It seems that both in tandem fixed things, and I don't get unneccesary weapons anymore. (i.e, I don't get the vanilla SSG when typing IDKFA in my mod anymore, only my modded one, yay!)

And as for ALTHUDCF, I was using that so my custom ammo would show, but I never knew it could be used to blacklist items, I'll take a look (if I can).

Thanks to everyone who replied.

[Enjay]

And as for ALTHUDCF, I was using that so my custom ammo would show, but I never knew it could be used to blacklist items, I'll take a look (if I can).

From memory, you just have to provide a blank entry for the item that you don't want to appear. e.g.

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[yum13241]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.