Actually, I think it's the palette shades that look off. This same shift to red can be observed in all of the Build games in the brown colors which makes me believe that the generation tool was bugged, because aside from this quirk the shade tables are relatively well composed.markanini wrote:To my eyes the default option with palette emulation disabled reduces the quantization artifacts of the original, greatly improving atmosphere IMO. The downside is that the colors hues and saturation get shifted around, resulting in a generally dull and off-looking colors.
Maybe, maybe not. It brings to mind the CGA palette of all things, where the dark yellow has its green intensity halved.Graf Zahl wrote:This same shift to red can be observed in all of the Build games in the brown colors which makes me believe that the generation tool was bugged, because aside from this quirk the shade tables are relatively well composed.
BTW, don't you think it's a bigger problem that browns a reds tend toward dark lime? I see a bit of the tissue you are talking about, you might find with it's not as much with my method.Graf Zahl wrote: Actually, I think it's the palette shades that look off. This same shift to red can be observed in all of the Build games in the brown colors which makes me believe that the generation tool was bugged, because aside from this quirk the shade tables are relatively well composed.
The red tint of browns was what I noticed first, but I find any kind of color change in such a shade table problematic - these aren't as bad as Heretic, though - that one is doing some really weird voodoo.markanini wrote: BTW, don't you think it's a bigger problem that browns a reds tend toward dark lime? I see a bit of the tissue you are talking about, you might find with it's not as much with my method.
I don't see anything wrong with Blood's shade table.Graf Zahl wrote:Actually, I think it's the palette shades that look off. This same shift to red can be observed in all of the Build games in the brown colors which makes me believe that the generation tool was bugged, because aside from this quirk the shade tables are relatively well composed.markanini wrote:To my eyes the default option with palette emulation disabled reduces the quantization artifacts of the original, greatly improving atmosphere IMO. The downside is that the colors hues and saturation get shifted around, resulting in a generally dull and off-looking colors.
That's very interesting, it seems to be doing a good job in preserving the contrast of the original ART.markanini wrote:To my eyes the default option with palette emulation disabled reduces the quantization artifacts of the original, greatly improving atmosphere IMO. The downside is that the colors hues and saturation get shifted around, resulting in a generally dull and off-looking colors. This made me consider a way of combining the pluses of both modes using a shader. As a proof of concept I have prepared a ReShade package.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4snzt7l71ur0e ... e.zip?dl=0
Extract it into your Raze directory, run Reshade Setup, and it should get picked up on startup. Just remember to leave palette emulation disabled. Currently only Blood is supported.
That may be and if only one game showed that trait I'd just blame it on the available colors - but I've seen the same red-shift quirk not only in Blood but also in RR and SW. And it's only visible in a very narrow range of hues that's virtually identical in all games. That's what made me suspect that the color matching algorithm tends to have a slight red bias.Fox666 wrote:I don't see anything wrong with Blood's shade table.Graf Zahl wrote:Actually, I think it's the palette shades that look off. This same shift to red can be observed in all of the Build games in the brown colors which makes me believe that the generation tool was bugged, because aside from this quirk the shade tables are relatively well composed.markanini wrote:To my eyes the default option with palette emulation disabled reduces the quantization artifacts of the original, greatly improving atmosphere IMO. The downside is that the colors hues and saturation get shifted around, resulting in a generally dull and off-looking colors.
By superimposing a black gradient over the palette, I get very similar results converting the palette in Photoshop.
I think it's just a visual thing, the game relies too much on indigo or yellow colors, and when darkened the closest match is brown.
Correct. EDIT:Actually I stacked a truecolor layer in Photoshop in luminosity mode, thereby passing through hue and saturation. Same thing for the Hald CLUT I made for my shader. My solution works right for fullbright sectors. An internal shader in Raze with the same function would work ideally in a all circumstances.Fox666 wrote:Looks like you just overlayed the images, using the hue of one and the brightness of another.
