[0.10.6] Gun Bonsai -- everything-compatible weapon upgrading

[Asurmen]

Hey there! On Heretic, is there a way to keep a weapon's upgrades when using a tome of power? I know that normal and upgraded weapons don't share the same weaponclass, but maybe someone has created a mod, or maybe gunbonsai already supports it? (I haven't found anything like that, but I'm asking just in case)

[stainedofmind]

Hey there! On Heretic, is there a way to keep a weapon's upgrades when using a tome of power? I know that normal and upgraded weapons don't share the same weaponclass, but maybe someone has created a mod, or maybe gunbonsai already supports it? (I haven't found anything like that, but I'm asking just in case)

I'm fairly certain you can use a BONSAIRC lump to do this. Off the top of my head, I'm not certain what the correct lines are, and I don't have time before work to test it, but if you don't have it figured out by the time I get home, I'll see if I can narrow it down.

[Asurmen]

Thanks for the reply! I made some testing and in fact... it seems it IS already keeping upgrades between normal and enhanced versions of the weapon, when you use the "weapon class" option ( Originaly, I was using the "same weapon with inheritance"). Don't know what happened exactly but when I tested it last time it wasn't working this way. Maybe it's because I started a new playthrough, or because I was using a weapon pack at that time. I'll continue testing it this way, hopefully I just made a mistake last time

[Asurmen]

And... again it doesn't work anymore! Every time I remember to check and the last tome of power I used seems to have "broken" the system. My instinct tells me that it could have something to do with weapons like the dragonclaw that change weapon type or mix them when they become enhanced (the dragonclaw gains projectiles in addition to being a hitscan weapon).

[Asurmen]

I asked ChatGPT, as I didn't even know what a BONSAIRC lump was and I created it with these lines :

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merge BlasterPowered Blaster;
merge CrossbowPowered Crossbow;
merge GauntletsPowered Gauntlets;
merge GoldWandPowered GoldWand;
merge MacePowered Mace;
merge PhoenixRodPowered PhoenixRod;
merge SkullRodPowered SkullRod;
merge StaffPowered Staff;

Does it looks like something that could work ? (I'll test it but if it's like the last time, it could work at the begining and stop after some time).

Edit : Finished E1M3, that worked so far.
Edit : Finished E2M1 and still working, so I guess it's a win Thanks for the suggestion! Hopefuly it'll help someone else someday.

[TristanH]

That stack trace is weird as hell! What pistol start mod are you using? My best guess here is that you were wielding an SPAS-15 with Rapid Fire on your way out of the level, the pistol start mod deleted it and replaced it with a Five-Seven, and Rapid Fire ended up trying to execute a psprite state from the former using the latter, or something like that.

Which definitely shouldn't happen, but I think I need to recreate it locally to figure out why it happens first.

Hey ToxicFrog. I hope everything's okay.

[Death Mage]

Ok, so here's an odd question, and perhaps I missed an option for it.

Is there a way to keep XP when you die? Not a "reload last save" die, but a "pistol start" death?

I was hoping to do a run using this an Final Doomer+ set to random on a difficult map pack, where I can keep my progress on the current weapon pack when I die and get reset to a different one. Mostly for a few reasons, first because the idea of gaining experience even in failure does mean that the levels should, in theory, get mechanically easier as you continue playing, and because I think it'll be interesting seeing which weapon packs end up with the most experience.

[stainedofmind]

Ok, so here's an odd question, and perhaps I missed an option for it.

Is there a way to keep XP when you die? Not a "reload last save" die, but a "pistol start" death?

I was hoping to do a run using this an Final Doomer+ set to random on a difficult map pack, where I can keep my progress on the current weapon pack when I die and get reset to a different one. Mostly for a few reasons, first because the idea of gaining experience even in failure does mean that the levels should, in theory, get mechanically easier as you continue playing, and because I think it'll be interesting seeing which weapon packs end up with the most experience.

Currently GB doesn't save data between sessions (other then save games of course). I did have a request on my GB Addons thread for saving/loading upgrades between sessions however, so maybe I'll look into this feature.

I could even try to add a feature to automatically save on death. When you say "pistol start death", what method would you be using to do this? This actually sounds like something I'd want to do myself!

[kinker31]

I asked ChatGPT, as I didn't even know what a BONSAIRC lump was and I created it with these lines :

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merge BlasterPowered Blaster;
merge CrossbowPowered Crossbow;
merge GauntletsPowered Gauntlets;
merge GoldWandPowered GoldWand;
merge MacePowered Mace;
merge PhoenixRodPowered PhoenixRod;
merge SkullRodPowered SkullRod;
merge StaffPowered Staff;

Just as a small sidenote, I'd be careful using anything that comes from Generative AI; Nothing against 'ya, it's just that most forms of GenAI usually skew towards generating material it thinks you want to see, rather than stuff that actually works.
The markdown file on the modding documenation can give you a good idea on the specifics of the BONSAIRC lump, should you need it again.

[Death Mage]

Currently GB doesn't save data between sessions (other then save games of course). I did have a request on my GB Addons thread for saving/loading upgrades between sessions however, so maybe I'll look into this feature.

I could even try to add a feature to automatically save on death. When you say "pistol start death", what method would you be using to do this? This actually sounds like something I'd want to do myself!

The default death behavior. You die, you start again at the beginning of the level with just your pistol and starting ammo, rather than loading a save. I just thought it'd be both a fun challenge to play something without leaning on the quicksave button, but also still be gaining progress as I play.

[stainedofmind]

Currently GB doesn't save data between sessions (other then save games of course). I did have a request on my GB Addons thread for saving/loading upgrades between sessions however, so maybe I'll look into this feature.

I could even try to add a feature to automatically save on death. When you say "pistol start death", what method would you be using to do this? This actually sounds like something I'd want to do myself!

The default death behavior. You die, you start again at the beginning of the level with just your pistol and starting ammo, rather than loading a save. I just thought it'd be both a fun challenge to play something without leaning on the quicksave button, but also still be gaining progress as I play.

Just uploaded the Addon "Progress Keeper" to my other thread here: viewtopic.php?t=78910. I gave it a whirl with Final Doomer+ like how you said you wanted to play, and it's quite fun! Should do what you want it to do. Haven't been able to a full test run, so there's a good chance that there could be some unusual bugs.

[Death Mage]

Thank you very much!

I have a few projects ahead of it to finish, so it'll be some time before I can dig into it, but I am greatly looking forward to it.

[DoomYeen]

This mod is amazing and so much fun with Arrowood's Call of Doom Black Warfare.

[decisive_decoder]

Loving the mod, do have a couple of questions
1. Would it be possible to add a way to make it so the player loses levels when they get reset?
2. If not, what is the maximum level a player can have without crashing?
keep up the amazing work.

[stainedofmind]

Loving the mod, do have a couple of questions
1. Would it be possible to add a way to make it so the player loses levels when they get reset?
2. If not, what is the maximum level a player can have without crashing?
keep up the amazing work.

Not sure what you mean when you say "reset" for number 1. For number 2, it would depend on your XP settings. Would likely be an extremely high number however. Other then a bug from back in the day that caused XP to overflow, I don't think I've heard of anyone breaking the system with too high numbers.