Ashes Afterglow TC - closing the vault

[AmissaAnima]

Out of curiosity is any one working on an Fanmade mod for Ashes?

[Ihavequestions]

I want a quick report about this mod confliction with any allied mods. When you switch between maps; back and forth; allied mobs will duplicate every time you transfer. Nope, this is not a joke; I got a huge army by the end of game.

Hey, I'm curious. Can you name some of them? I'd love to try it out.

Had to make a new gang... make 'em stronger than ever...

[Unregret]

I want a quick report about this mod confliction with any allied mods. When you switch between maps; back and forth; allied mobs will duplicate every time you transfer. Nope, this is not a joke; I got a huge army by the end of game.

Hey, I'm curious. Can you name some of them? I'd love to try it out.

Had to make a new gang... make 'em stronger than ever...

Here tons of them; viewtopic.php?t=69548

[Ihavequestions]

Oh, yes! This one even was specifically designed with Ashes in mind. So cool. viewtopic.php?f=43&t=75575.

[harperfan7]

Is there a consensus on whether Survival or Apocalypse is harder?

[AmissaAnima]

Is there a consensus on whether Survival or Apocalypse is harder?

From what i can gather from my short play session in order to try and figure this out.

Survival = You deal more damage to enemies, But enemies deals increased damage to you as well.

Apocalypse = You deal more damage to enemies, But enemies moves around and attacks you faster as well as deal increased damage towards you,
Also the enemy population is increased much like when you're playing on the Arcade mode difficulty.

[McMatthew7898]

AmissaAnima wrote:
> [quote=harperfan7 post_id=1236613 time=1675502884 user_id=37436]
> Is there a consensus on whether Survival or Apocalypse is harder?
> [/quote]
>
> From what i can gather from my short play session in order to try and
> figure this out.
>
> Survival = You deal more damage to enemies, But enemies deals increased
> damage to you as well.
>
> Apocalypse = You deal more damage to enemies, But enemies moves around and
> attacks you faster as well as deal increased damage towards you,
> Also the enemy population is increased much like when you're playing on the
> Arcade mode difficulty.

A good overview but you missed two things.

On survival difficulty you get half ammo from certain ammo pickups

On apocalypse the enemies take less damage than survival.
Survival: cannibals die from 1 heavy crowbar attack, 1 light crowbar attack
Apocalypse: cannibals die from 1 heavy crowbar attack, 2-3 light crowbar attacks


I would say apocalypse is significantly harder. The only upside to apocalypse is you get more ammo from certain pickups and more enemies that drop guns when killed. Thing is you’ll use that ammo faster because there are more enemies with more health. The faster movement and attack also makes them harder to hit and more of a threat to you, encouraging more liberal ammo usage. On top of that you don’t get any extra armor or health pickups to compensate for the more numerous and dangerous enemies.

[Ihavequestions]

Apocalypse: cannibals die from 1 heavy crowbar attack, 2-3 light crowbar attacks

In other words: 2 heavy crowbar attacks. That's how I do it.

[McMatthew7898]

Ihavequestions wrote:
> [quote=McMatthew7898 post_id=1237662 time=1677985742
> user_id=37806]Apocalypse: cannibals die from 1 heavy crowbar attack, 2-3
> light crowbar attacks[/quote]In other words: 2 heavy crowbar attacks.
> That's how I do it.

I was just using that as an example to demonstrate that enemies take less damage on apocalypse.

I think the game does a good job of balancing the weapons and the main and alternate fire modes. For the crowbar the heavy attack does do a lot more damage, but it has a long wind up and cool down. The way the doom engine works too sometimes it’s better to do more attacks that deal less damage if you want to stun enemies. The pain chance is based on how many hits they receive, not the damage dealt.

[Ihavequestions]

The way the doom engine works too sometimes it’s better to do more attacks that deal less damage if you want to stun enemies. The pain chance is based on how many hits they receive, not the damage dealt.

I know all that, but I haven't found any good use for it with regards to the crowbar (I actually never use the crowbar's main attack mode). I do make use of the stun effect with the piledriver, though.

[McMatthew7898]

The crowbar’s main attack will almost completely stun lock a cannibal. It’s safer than trying to time heavy attacks

The jackhammer is generally better, but it has limited ammo and you don’t start with it. The crowbar does have some small advantages, you can use the lamp with it, it makes little noise, and the range might be a little longer.

[Ihavequestions]

The crowbar’s main attack will almost completely stun lock a cannibal.

And then what? Apart from the fact that you can still be hit back.

It’s safer than trying to time heavy attacks

Not in my experience. But having a cancel option for the heavy attacks would be helpful in timing them.

[AmissaAnima]

The jackhammer is generally better, but it has limited ammo and you don’t start with it. The crowbar does have some small advantages, you can use the lamp with it, it makes little noise, and the range might be a little longer.

While the Jackhammer deals more damage than the actual Crowbar it's not the best when it comes to moveability as in order to deal the most damage you're required to stand in place or move back slowly, Something that will get you easily killed on higher difficulties.
The only time i find myself using the Jackhammer is too stunlock the Ghosts as i've found that using that against them prevents them from doing their attack animation (most of the time any way as i've encountered cases in where they could still attack me it could've been my fault but i can't really remember)

The Crowbar is honestly the better option for dealing with common Melee mutants as all you gotta do is bonk them on the head with the heavy attack and step back and them bonk them on the head again and repeat until their killed. Honestly works wonders in the arena you're locked in a later map, Although it can take long to get rid of them all. In rare cases i try to bonk Pithounds with the Crowbar as that usually kills them in one hit.

[Deon]

One improvement I could ask about, only if you have time, since it's not a lot of work, is to add "tags" to all pickups. I am often playing with targeting mods, sometimes with Use to Pickup, and showing proper names of items instead of class names adds to the enjoyment.

I've fixed it for myself but wanted to pass this recommendation in case you find time for it.

And once again, I return to these mods, even though I've played them through many times. They are just THAT good.

[Canjul]

So I already asked this a few pages back, but I'm going to try once more in the hopes that somebody can satisfy my curiosity; when you get your bike back, if you stick around and help the guards kill the monsters instead of just tearing ass out of there, one of them drops a necklace/locket.

Does anybody know what it's for? Is it just a relic from some quest that was cut out? I tried giving it to the guards, but no luck. Just carried it around for the rest of the game!