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Jim
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randy wrote:I'm working on making it use autoconf right now.
Great! That means that it will be a lot simpler to compile in Linux, whatever your setup. (Or in cygwin, BSD, ...)
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Jim wrote:
randy wrote:I'm working on making it use autoconf right now.
Great! That means that it will be a lot simpler to compile in Linux, whatever your setup. (Or in cygwin, BSD, ...)
Actually I find autoconf is a pain in the ass, I prefer some kind of a custom Makefile system myself.

For the end user, when the configure script breaks (which is very often on anything other than Linux), it is pure hell trying to clean things up to make things work.

EDIT: If randy wants to do this that is fine by me...

I just don't seen to see any advantages to using autoconf myself, other than to make things easier on the "./configure && make && make install" user but make things a pain in the ass when the script breaks, the user wants to change something, or isn't using Linux and/or a GNU userland.
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Post by IntergalacticWalrus »

randy wrote:Would you like to see the source code before or after I autoconfiscate it? I'm working on making it use autoconf right now. But if you don't want to wait any longer, I still have the source with my custom Makefiles. (Although there is a crashing bug that kills it real quick which I introduced while trying to make it faster before starting the autoconf work.)
That's cool, I can wait your next release.
Jim wrote:Great! That means that it will be a lot simpler to compile in Linux, whatever your setup. (Or in cygwin, BSD, ...)
Actually, as long as ZDoom uses fmod for its sound routines, it kills pretty much any ports on other platforms (I guess fmod linux could run under FreeBSD, but I'm no expert on that).
And of course, getting ZDoom to compile under cygwin is a pretty much a pointless effort.

akimmet wrote:Actually I find autoconf is a pain in the ass, I prefer some kind of a custom Makefile system myself.

For the end user, when the configure script breaks (which is very often on anything other than Linux), it is pure hell trying to clean things up to make things work.

EDIT: If randy wants to do this that is fine by me...

I just don't seen to see any advantages to using autoconf myself, other than to make things easier on the "./configure && make && make install" user but make things a pain in the ass when the script breaks, the user wants to change something, or isn't using Linux and/or a GNU userland.
Isn't it the actual idea behind autoconf/automake to have a portable build process? Yeah, I know it has its issues, but still... a well written autoconf script should only break on very badly designed systems, IMHO.
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randy wrote:I also miss having a decent integrated development environment under Linux like Visual Studio. KDevelop looked promising until I found out it can't handle projects with files in more than one directory. :-(
KDE 3.2.1, a maintenance release, has resolved many issues, including in KDevelop. I wonder if this recently fixed bug (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71003) caused the problem you were refering to.
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I compiled zdoom 2.0.63 under linux, but I've got troubles with fmod and timidity :evil:
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Hey, I just noticed something: This is the 111th topic in the news forum!

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Post by cccp_leha »

So is it going to disappear like Bilbo?
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I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve! [/retardedly offtopic]
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Just use [/[censored word]] when quoting Tolkien. It's faster and more accurate.
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HotWax. [/name of a stupid dumbass]
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Poop. [/Nuclear Warhead]
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Post by adx »

[a little bit offtopic]
whats the autoexec.bat somehow equivalent in linux? or rather whereis the config that would allow me to remove the startx option from boot? i would to remove that so i would just start the X window if i want to
[/a little bit offtopic] :?:
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Post by Risen »

For some of the major distributions, just change your default runlevel from 5 to 3.
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Post by adx »

Risen wrote:For some of the major distributions, just change your default runlevel from 5 to 3.
i don't know what you're talking about, i'm really a newbie to Linux, [BTW] i'm using RedHat 9 (shrike).
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Post by adx »

ok, nobody replied, i think this is not the right forum to ask linux questions(which is really is, this is ZDoom! don't you know that)
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