The ideal "final level" music
The ideal "final level" music
I surmise, the final level of a game should be the most dramatic one, as the story, the events of the whole game come down to that very last stage, the final confrontation, the battle between good vs. evil, and all the juicy stuff which usually comes with a final level: very high difficulty, the toughest boss, various taunts like "Prepare to meet your DEMISE!" or "Finally I can kill you and then I'll RULE THE WORLD! Mwhahahahahahaha!", and of course, a very special and distinct music.
I don't know about you, but I'm really curious what kind of song I'll get for the last level of the game, especially if it's a big bossfight with the mastermind of ultimate evil. Majorly, I noticed two different kind of final level songs: an action-packed, quick and heated track, much like Xaero's theme from Quake 3, Wolfenstein 3D boss level songs or E3M8: Dis, or a very slow, sorrowful, depressing music signifying utter hopelessness and the feeling of "all is lost", like E1M8: Phobos Anomaly, Resident Evil 3, Sniper Path of Vengeance, X-Wing, and so on.
My question is: what kind of final level music you prefer? What type of final music you find fitting to the last level of the game?
I don't know about you, but I'm really curious what kind of song I'll get for the last level of the game, especially if it's a big bossfight with the mastermind of ultimate evil. Majorly, I noticed two different kind of final level songs: an action-packed, quick and heated track, much like Xaero's theme from Quake 3, Wolfenstein 3D boss level songs or E3M8: Dis, or a very slow, sorrowful, depressing music signifying utter hopelessness and the feeling of "all is lost", like E1M8: Phobos Anomaly, Resident Evil 3, Sniper Path of Vengeance, X-Wing, and so on.
My question is: what kind of final level music you prefer? What type of final music you find fitting to the last level of the game?
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For me it really depends of the level's pacing.
If you fight enemies nonstop, or there's a feeling of constant danger, then I'd say an action track is best.
However, if there's a lengthy buildup until you actually get to fight the boss, a slower track might be fitting. You could also switch to a fast track right as the battle begins.
If you fight enemies nonstop, or there's a feeling of constant danger, then I'd say an action track is best.
However, if there's a lengthy buildup until you actually get to fight the boss, a slower track might be fitting. You could also switch to a fast track right as the battle begins.
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There's no automatic right answer. It has everything to do with the setting, mood, build-up, plot (should you be one of those hippies that are big on that) and the battle itself.
Creating a contrast against the other scenes in the game is also a potential factor: Dark Souls, for example, casts aside the loud extravagant orchestras and titanic creatures for its final battle, which is a 1-on-1 fight soundtracked by a single piano.
And then there's multiple-stage final boss battles and... ahh, there's too many possible factors to dissolve into a simple scientific formula. Just focus on making it memorable!
Creating a contrast against the other scenes in the game is also a potential factor: Dark Souls, for example, casts aside the loud extravagant orchestras and titanic creatures for its final battle, which is a 1-on-1 fight soundtracked by a single piano.
And then there's multiple-stage final boss battles and... ahh, there's too many possible factors to dissolve into a simple scientific formula. Just focus on making it memorable!
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You must have misunderstood me I wasn't looking for a right answer, I wish to know your opinions, and what kind of final level music you find fitting (for what final level, bossfight or not). So far, all answers are good!
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It really does depend on the game. I agree with Kinsie on this one, though I think tone is the biggest thing to look at. In an intense, action-packed game with a rocking metal soundtrack, you probably wouldn't want to suddenly throw classical music in for the final boss. Conversely, a dark, brooding game probably shouldn't have a light and energetic final battle. Then again, contrast can work if it's done right.
I disagree that one level=one track as you may have asserted. A change in music at a critical point can make a bigger difference than the choice of music itself. If I remember correctly, the original Halo was specifically designed to shift music with the action.
I disagree that one level=one track as you may have asserted. A change in music at a critical point can make a bigger difference than the choice of music itself. If I remember correctly, the original Halo was specifically designed to shift music with the action.
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If there is one constant, it should feel more dramatic then most of the other tracks. Knee Deep in the Dead's E1M8 gives a feeling that something important is going down, right now. If the E1M2 music was used instead, or even E1M1, it wouldn't be as great of a boss fight, because they don't give that feeling.
I otherwise agree with everyone else- the genre itself depends on the situation, but what I mentioned applies to all genres.
I otherwise agree with everyone else- the genre itself depends on the situation, but what I mentioned applies to all genres.
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This wins. Sit down.SamVision wrote:Something like this.
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Re: The ideal "final level" music
For literally ending, i mean for something like the ending messages of doom episodes i see 3 options:
If dramatic, everyone looses
If intriguing, everything reveals at ending
And of course, if everyone wins
If dramatic, everyone looses
If intriguing, everything reveals at ending
And of course, if everyone wins
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If the fate of the world is in inminent danger.
It all depends on the effect it will have on the player.
It all depends on the effect it will have on the player.
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Excellent choices! I knew I was at the right place asking this question. It's very interesting to see how different your viewpoints are, when it comes to the dreaded final level, where (hopefully), the good earns its reward, and so does evil the punishment. Hm. You're also right about that it depends on the current ending - if the hero dies, it can influence the music, too. This is why I said that there is no "right" answer.
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Speaking of which, strange that this isn't mentioned here before, because the music is simply awesome yet very atmospheric to the game.
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Probably the most insane MiDi ive ever heard. Too bad it isint the last level music.
Also this isint even the full version. The full one goes for 11 minutes!
Also this isint even the full version. The full one goes for 11 minutes!
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La Villa Strangiato, YYZ or The Big Money, all by Rush, for rock-oriented sound.
The midis for La Villa Strangiato where I usually look for midis (here) don't kick in the guitar distortion when they're supposed to (and they use picked bass when Geddy Lee is a fingerstyle player!). However, I can fix it if you decide to use it.
The midis for YYZ there also get the string part wrong. Again, nothing I can't fix.
The Big Money's okay, but the snare drum in the intro of the midi isn't as synthetically powerful as it is in the real version. I think I can fix this.
The midis for La Villa Strangiato where I usually look for midis (here) don't kick in the guitar distortion when they're supposed to (and they use picked bass when Geddy Lee is a fingerstyle player!). However, I can fix it if you decide to use it.
The midis for YYZ there also get the string part wrong. Again, nothing I can't fix.
The Big Money's okay, but the snare drum in the intro of the midi isn't as synthetically powerful as it is in the real version. I think I can fix this.
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