Is there oxygen in Doom-hell?

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Is there oxygen in doom's hell?

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Is there oxygen in Doom-hell?

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How does doom-guy breathe in the fiery abyss?
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Same way he breathes on Phobos' outdoor areas, I suppose.

I would imagine that Hell has air to breathe, but it probably wouldn't taste too pleasant.
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The air in hell smells like a mixture of foul cigarettes, rotten egg farts, and your average inner-city apartment building shortly before dinnertime. So yes, it's breathable, but it's wholly unpleasant.
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wildweasel wrote:The air in hell smells like a mixture of foul cigarettes, rotten egg farts, and your average inner-city apartment building shortly before dinnertime. So yes, it's breathable, but it's wholly unpleasant.
How do you know that, WildWeasel? :P Don't tell me Hell is some stinky apartment in New York, or I won't wanna go.
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Doom3's version of hell is the best example, it's a surreal otherworldly dimension where normal laws of the world don't exist
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Yes.

First, because there are torches and fire pools in Doom-hell. Also explosive weapons works normally as they would in Earth's surface. These are the most concrete proofs that there is oxygen in Doom's hell.

Actually to be honest, I have never seen Doom-hell as Christian Hell, or any link with religious stuff in first place. I just think that Doom-Hell is just a very grotesque planet from millions of light-years of distance, and the hellspawn are actually just aliens.

Also if demons bleed, they have blood (thanks captain obvious). And if they have blood, it means that their bodies were made to absorb oxygen just like us. They couldn't ever exist on their home dimension if there wasn't oxygen there.
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Sure, why not. He's wearing a helmet other than for protective reasons, right? Probably filters something as well.
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probably too much methane and sulfur in the air for poor doom guy
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Post by Marisa the Magician »

I find it to be quite obviously oxygenated for the same reasons Sergeant Mark IV just listed.

And yeah I kinda had always believed it was just a realm of its own that is identified as "hell" (kind of like all the UnSX "hells" I come up with, one of them being closely related to the Doom one).
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If zombies that was like him before now breathe the air without helmets I would say Yes. Also Fire behave normaly.
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Presumably, yes. Phobos and Deimos are another question.
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I've always assumed that Phobos and Deimos had been terraformed
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They can't be terraformed to have an atmosphere because they are too small to have one. But this is scy-fi anyway.

Sgt Mark has a point. The only two things I could add are: 1, that Hell must not have TOO MUCH oxygen. A geologist friend once told me that a planet with too much oxy would have its atmosphere burning and complex life forms would not be possible. However, some Doom maps have fires on the sky, so it sounds like a paradox to me o.õ; 2, about the blood thing, note that demons "blood" could not be just like an earthling's blood, I mean, it could have any other biologic reason, even transport another types of gases.

Anyway, having oxy is not the only requirement to some air be breathable by humans: Hell must have other kinds of gases different from Earth, and/or in different proportions from Earth's atmosphere. Also, other life-holders planets (like Hell) must have billions of microorganisms that we cannot fight. Doomguy better don't take his helmet off! D:
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I never assumed demons were the typical lifeforms that biology refers to. First of all, they're summoned out of thin air from cubes. :P I'm assuming they have other forms of coming into being.

Explosive weapons and bullets do not require oxygen. The chemical reactants are already packed as a solid or powder within the bullet. You can fire bullets in space even with the absence of oxygen.

As for the torches I've always assumed they were magical, along with the otherworldly wonders of doom-hell.
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Damn, I think it is gonna be off-topic. I never thought much about the nature of Doom-hell, but the lack of the plot references in-game (except text pieces and game manual) leaves player with his own perception of events.

DoomGuy suffers from mid-life crisis. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't have a chance to. So, when his squad gets that famous assignment on Mars, something breaks in his brain. Doomguy has a strong body, but a soft soul. He has a nervous breakdown and loses the perception of reality. Then two variants of plot are possible:

1) DoomGuy creates the monsters and, therefore, the whole issue with the UAC station. His squad gets informed that was a false alert, but DoomGuy starts walking around and killing all scientists, security forces, even his squadmates (hence all their bodies, but no signs of alive soldiers). While thinking he's a hero, DoomGuy becomes the REAL problem, and the REAL evil of Doom and Doom II.

2) DoomGuy and his squadmates fight the actual monsters in the first episode, but he doesn't see them, he thinks this story is all about him (hence the bodies of dead monsters and bloodstains on the floor). So when he walks into the portal at the Ep.1 end, he imagines the whole thing about travelling to Hell, then saving Earth, while actually lying on the floor, unconscious. He wished to become a hero, but he just failed.

I suppose all this looks raw from the first sight, but try to think a little into it.
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