please help me im getting sick of this

[edward850]

Nah, it's more intended like: "if you want help, you're going to have to help us to understand your problem". The intonation is more like "just give us some clues dammit" rather than "pleeeeease".

Generally people here (yourself included) like to help others so I suppose I am asking him for help so that I (or we) can do what we like doing but if he doesn't start describing his errors and problems more clearly and providing examples, the offers of help will soon dry up because he'll be making helping him harder than it should be.

Help us help you help us all.

... Or something to that effect.

[Enjay]

I'm GLaD(OS) you put it that way.

[haru00988]

I'm GLaD(OS) you put it that way.

okay, you want to help with my mod, if so then i'll send you the link c'mon how easy is my mod to edit and make further?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47645

[GooberMan]

I think it's safe to say at this point that no one wants to help with your mod, but we will answer questions.

Pretty sure that's not the first time it's been said in this thread either.

If reading the documentation is as hard as your topic title suggests, then I recommend downloading already released mods that do what you want and see how they've implemented things.

[haru00988]

why dont ayone want to help, selfish people in this world -.-

[haru00988]

I think it's safe to say at this point that no one wants to help with your mod, but we will answer questions.

Pretty sure that's not the first time it's been said in this thread either.

If reading the documentation is as hard as your topic title suggests, then I recommend downloading already released mods that do what you want and see how they've implemented things.

please give it atleast one chance

[Enjay]

why dont ayone want to help, selfish people in this world -.-

Really?
Really?
We're selfish because we aren't helping you with your mod?

I mean, aside from the fact that a number of people have already spent time and effort trying to help you and actually offered further help, it's your mod. It's not our mod. What's more, you don't know what anyone else's commitments are like. We all have that funny little thing going on known as life. Where the hell do you get off calling people selfish because (as you see it) they aren't helping you get something done that you (not they) want to do when you haven't got a clue what is going on in their lives? You won't get any help with that approach.

[haru00988]

why dont ayone want to help, selfish people in this world -.-

Really?
Really?
We're selfish because we aren't helping you with your mod?

I mean, aside from the fact that a number of people have already spent time and effort trying to help you and actually offered further help, it's your mod. It's not our mod. What's more, you don't know what anyone else's commitments are like. We all have that funny little thing going on known as life. Where the hell do you get off calling people selfish because (as you see it) they aren't helping you get something done that you (not they) want to do when you haven't got a clue what is going on in their lives? You won't get any help with that approach.

im sorry but i thought that people helped each other making mods? the worst thing is that no one thinks my mod is good or maybe interresting. i mean its an rpg!?
where the hell are those who always wanted a heretic/hexen mod?

[edward850]

That's not how helping eachother works. It's not automatic. Here's a breakdown:

• People may have prior commitments.
• They just may not be interested right now.
• They might not be modders. There's been at-least two programmers post in this here thread, and only one of them actually makes ZDoom mods, while the other programs ZDoom instead.
• They might not have seen this thread.
• They might be avoiding this thread. You haven't made your posts particularly presentable with typos, triple posts, general demanding attitude, and failure to answer questions.
• Nobody joins projects that have very little to show in the way of content.
• Hexen/Heretic aren't as popular.

[Enjay]

im sorry but i thought that people helped each other making mods?

Yes, they do. Look back through this thread and look at how many words have been typed by various people to try and help your problems. That's called help. People have been helping you. In fact, you have actually made it difficult for them to help you on a number of occasions by ignoring their advice or by not providing the information they needed.

People will help. People have helped. However, no one is going to make your mod for you and even being part of a mod making team is a big commitment that people often don't have time for. If you have time for it, great, but that doesn't mean other people do.

Some people have already helped.
Some people may not be able to help.
Some people may not have the time to help.
Some people may not want to help.

Just because you have decided to make a mod, it doesn't mean that people have to help you. This is a hobby. We do it for fun. We have other things to do. Almost all of those things will be more important to us than your mod.

Insulting people by calling them selfish is not the way to get help. You are behaving like a spoiled child having a tantrum because you aren't getting your own way. You were told to calm down yesterday. Posting in the way that you have been is possibly the best way you could manage to get people to stop helping you.

And, when it comes down to it, you haven't really even told people what help you want.

[haru00988]

That's not how helping eachother works. It's not automatic. Here's a breakdown:

• People may have prior commitments.
• They just may not be interested right now.
• They might not be modders. There's been at-least two programmers post in this here thread, and only one of them actually makes ZDoom mods, while the other programs ZDoom instead.
• They might not have seen this thread.
• They might be avoiding this thread. You haven't made your posts particularly presentable with typos, triple posts, general demanding attitude, and failure to answer questions.
• Nobody joins projects that have very little to show in the way of content.
• Hexen/Heretic aren't as popular.

i have done much of it myself, look again selfishd said that my mod isnt popular because og hexen/heretic, if i made a doom mod nobody would be intressted in that either because of they maybe hate me?
look at the ultimate doomer he made a hexen mod and its gone really popular?
why only me? people should give my mod at least one little chance!

[haru00988]

im sorry but i thought that people helped each other making mods?

Yes, they do. Look back through this thread and look at how many words have been typed by various people to try and help your problems. That's called help. People have been helping you. In fact, you have actually made it difficult for them to help you on a number of occasions by ignoring their advice or by not providing the information they needed.

People will help. People have helped. However, no one is going to make your mod for you and even being part of a mod making team is a big commitment that people often don't have time for. If you have time for it, great, but that doesn't mean other people do.

Some people have already helped.
Some people may not be able to help.
Some people may not have the time to help.
Some people may not want to help.

Just because you have decided to make a mod, it doesn't mean that people have to help you. This is a hobby. We do it for fun. We have other things to do. Almost all of those things will be more important to us than your mod.

Insulting people by calling them selfish is not the way to get help. You are behaving like a spoiled child having a tantrum because you aren't getting your own way. You were told to calm down yesterday. Posting in the way that you have been is possibly the best way you could manage to get people to stop helping you.

And, when it comes down to it, you haven't really even told people what help you want.

yeah i trust you because you actually helped me, i'll send you my mod then check it up, and say what you think about it?

[edward850]

How is it that you quote a post suggesting you to stop multi posting, respond to it, and then proceed to double post anyway. If I didn't know any better, it would seem like you're not actually reading the posts.

[Enjay]

if i made a doom mod nobody would be intressted in that either because of they maybe hate me?

Hate you?
Most people don't even know you, much less care enough about you to hate you. Harsh but true.

Generally around here people stand or fall because of their own actions with no illogical hating. Be a valuable member of the community and people will appreciate your contributions.

yeah i trust you because you actually helped me, i'll send you my mod then check it up, and say what you think about it?

I can take a look. I'm not sure how much time I can give to a full critical run-through but I can load it up and give it a "first impressions" review. Why not put up a demo version for anyone to have a look at? You'll get more feedback that way. People will see that there is actually something playable and you may even get more enthusiasm about the project: but also be prepared for criticisms (which may, or may not, be intended constructively) because not everyone will like what you have done.

[edit] OK, I just got your PM so I'll download the mod now. (I thought you said that you weren't changing the Heretic IWAD ).[/edit]

[haru00988]

if i made a doom mod nobody would be intressted in that either because of they maybe hate me?

Hate you?
Most people don't even know you, much less care enough about you to hate you. Harsh but true.

Generally around here people stand or fall because of their own actions with no illogical hating. Be a valuable member of the community and people will appreciate your contributions.

okay, im sorry for behaving like that, and i send you my mod check it out (if you want)

first level is really easy and i dont remeber that i putted the player start in level 2 where it should, just play level one