Weasel Presents: Terrorists!

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Maybe also the fact that they're so similar in gameplay, both terrorists and nazis, but the former is a spiritual sequel to the latter, so who knows
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I've been trying to make Terrorists a decidedly different experience from Nazis. The weapons fill different roles, the reloads are slower, and the upgrade system in particular should make for a different experience from Nazis. As stated in the first post, literally the only thing borrowed from Nazis is the projectile tracers.
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i think i know why there appear regular doom enemies on certain ZDoom maps. the invisible monsters aren't replaced; they're their original Doom counterparts.
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Honestly, meh, if a mapper is going to use stealth monsters in their maps, I don't care enough to make "stealth" versions of my terrorists to fix that...

And yet, I heard a report that the glitch in question happened in Titan 1024 - isn't that a vanilla or Boom-compatible set, or am I mistaken?
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chronoteeth wrote:Yanno, the more I play these mods, like this and nazis, the more I cant help but feel like, somethings missing. Gameplay wise its awesome, but it kinda feels like a recent mario game more than anything. The quality and gameplay is top notch but its missing something that the likes of which diaz had
chronoteeth wrote:I guess its more like, if mods had soul, if that means anything
sounds more like nostalgia goggles to me. I vastly prefer both of these to Diaz.
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Does anybody else feel the urge to throw together a music wad of 80's/80's-style songs and action movie soundtracks when they're playing this, or is it just me? :P
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Heh, yes, it does have a little of that sort of vibe about it.
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If somebody does make a series of maps with this mod in mind, it's gotta have some Time Crisis music in it. It just fits.
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"Eye of the Tiger" should be the only song you need. :P
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i found a bug with the taser: if you get stunned, then hit by a regular attack from anyone, if you don't get hit by the taser again, you're completely immobile and unable to do anything.
it seems that setting off barrels nearby armored enemies with a weapon that doesn't pierce armor, makes the explosion from said barrels not pierce through the armored foes.
for that matter, setting off barrels with the taser makes the barrels deliver stunning damage (heh).
speaking of the taser, i find it kinda weird that the taser brings down mech enemies to the ground like that. but that maybe just imo.
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Viscra Maelstrom wrote:I find it kinda weird that the taser brings down mech enemies to the ground like that.
That was actually completely intentional. It's kinda supposed to be a movie effect sort of thing where hitting a robotic enemy with an electrical current makes them short-circuit and cease functioning. In this case, the current screws with their flight systems and makes them shut off. It also makes it easier to deal with Seekers since they're too dumb to correct themselves again and thus will just scrape and drag along the floor at a slow speed.

The enemies should probably have a unique sound for when applying a taser current makes them shut down.
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Viscra Maelstrom wrote:i found a bug with the taser: if you get stunned, then hit by a regular attack from anyone, if you don't get hit by the taser again, you're completely immobile and unable to do anything.
That will warrant some patchwork. I know how to fix this, though.
it seems that setting off barrels nearby armored enemies with a weapon that doesn't pierce armor, makes the explosion from said barrels not pierce through the armored foes.
Here's the thing - for some reason, the barrels deal only the damage type that damaged them. I don't know if this is an artifact of them transferring the owner (for kill credit) or whether it's safe to alter them accordingly...
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wildweasel wrote:Here's the thing - for some reason, the barrels deal only the damage type that damaged them. I don't know if this is an artifact of them transferring the owner (for kill credit) or whether it's safe to alter them accordingly...
It's a ZDoom mechanic that's needed to make things like damage-type-specific states work. So the only real fix would be to spawn another actor with the appropriate damage type to deal the damage.

Edit: Oh, I see what you mean now. No, this is explicit code to set the damagetype when harmed by a projectile of that damagetype, so transferring the owner/target/killer of the barrel to the new projectile/object should not cause any problems.
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NeuralStunner wrote:"Eye of the Tiger" should be the only song you need. :P
Steve1664 wrote:If somebody does make a series of maps with this mod in mind, it's gotta have some Time Crisis music in it. It just fits.
Needs more Metal Slug:

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y not try to get this comptible with batman doom?
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