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CantSleep wrote:There's more! Check out this WIP keycard animation.
I'm trying to figure out how to delay the door opening until the animation is done. More info on that soon

I'm surprised that's even possible in the first place. Nice job!

Artman2004 wrote:What's wrong with the current weapon sprites?

Well, the original BFG looks too plastic and the Rocket Launcher was just Doom-ified, since it looked more like a BD Rocket Launcher. The SSG may or may not become a sawed-off, but Hellfire is not certain about it.

QuakedoomNukem Cz wrote:

Artman2004 wrote:What's wrong with the current weapon sprites?

Well, the original BFG looks too plastic and the Rocket Launcher was just Doom-ified, since it looked more like a BD Rocket Launcher. The SSG may or may not become a sawed-off, but Hellfire is not certain about it.

The RL was an angled rendition of Eriance/Amuscaria's artwork made by sonik.o.fan. It was an updated/modernized take, yes, but i dunno if it would fit as something out of BD... but yeah, i can see your points for the BFG. I tried to edit it a bit because i also thought that it looked too much as an artificial model rip.

Artman2004 wrote:What's wrong with the current weapon sprites?

I believe nothing is wrong with the current sprites, but i liked that they are changing the visuals of some weapons. Both NTMAid and Angled Doom are currently using the same set of weapon sprites, and while i fully endorse CantSleep using them, a little change will be nice to set both mods apart (there was even someone complaining in the early days of NTMAid that both mods looked the same).

QuakedoomNukem Cz wrote:The SSG may or may not become a sawed-off, but Hellfire is not certain about it.

To clarify: the Sawed-Off will be featured in an alternative loadout for Doomguy that has more fitting weapons for the Build Engine style.

CantSleep wrote:

QuakedoomNukem Cz wrote:The SSG may or may not become a sawed-off, but Hellfire is not certain about it.

To clarify: the Sawed-Off will be featured in an alternative loadout for Doomguy that has more fitting weapons for the Build Engine style.

Will the alternate loadouts have different atats or are they purely visual?

Takuat wrote:

CantSleep wrote:

QuakedoomNukem Cz wrote:The SSG may or may not become a sawed-off, but Hellfire is not certain about it.

To clarify: the Sawed-Off will be featured in an alternative loadout for Doomguy that has more fitting weapons for the Build Engine style.

Will the alternate loadouts have different atats or are they purely visual?

Of course they will have different stats. For example the alt loadout has a Semi Rifle instead of the pistol, and it's more damaging and accurate but slower. A Super SMG will take the Chaingun's slot and is much faster, but reloads after 30 shots.

Any plans for implementing Quake III's unused Doomguy voice for the authentic Build experience?

Darman Macray wrote:Any plans for implementing Quake III's unused Doomguy voice for the authentic Build experience?

Check three pages back.

jdredalert wrote:

Darman Macray wrote:Any plans for implementing Quake III's unused Doomguy voice for the authentic Build experience?

Check three pages back.

Aw! Very good--such a discussion has already been had

Do you know what would be neat?

More varied death animations, unique chainsaw deaths for all the demons (including the Pinky! My favorite demon to chainsaw!) and a lot more unique gore (ala Beautiful Doom).

It could be randomized as well, like arms and legs flying off with different death animations, as well as decapitation deaths occurring randomly. Ofc you could also do a hitbox-based system so that a headshot results in decapitation, arms result in arm death, leg results in leg death etc.etc.etc.

It'd be different from Brutal Doom, because it wouldn't hinder the flow of Doom, and it'd have a unique Build feel to the individual gibs and it'd just be really charming. Like Blood in Doom kind of.

Sorry if I can't really express it well, but that's just an idea I have. I imagine it'd take a considerable amount of manpower and hours to code in unique gore for all the demons, as well as unique death animations that are randomized and varied (ala RDND but gorier), and unique chainsaw deaths for all the demons (with at least 2 or 3 chainsaw death sequences).

It'd go a long way in making the weapons feel satisfying! Oh, and this is another suggestion but perhaps bloodstained weapons if you kill an enemy up-close. Like the chainsaw, pistol, fist, or any weapon getting stained with red blood, blue blood, and green blood.

It'd be pretty neat I think!

TheEternalStruggler wrote:Do you know what would be neat?

More varied death animations, unique chainsaw deaths for all the demons (including the Pinky! My favorite demon to chainsaw!) and a lot more unique gore (ala Beautiful Doom).

It could be randomized as well, like arms and legs flying off with different death animations, as well as decapitation deaths occurring randomly. Ofc you could also do a hitbox-based system so that a headshot results in decapitation, arms result in arm death, leg results in leg death etc.etc.etc.

It'd be different from Brutal Doom, because it wouldn't hinder the flow of Doom, and it'd have a unique Build feel to the individual gibs and it'd just be really charming. Like Blood in Doom kind of.

Sorry if I can't really express it well, but that's just an idea I have. I imagine it'd take a considerable amount of manpower and hours to code in unique gore for all the demons, as well as unique death animations that are randomized and varied (ala RDND but gorier), and unique chainsaw deaths for all the demons (with at least 2 or 3 chainsaw death sequences).

It'd go a long way in making the weapons feel satisfying! Oh, and this is another suggestion but perhaps bloodstained weapons if you kill an enemy up-close. Like the chainsaw, pistol, fist, or any weapon getting stained with red blood, blue blood, and green blood.

It'd be pretty neat I think!

Erm... didn't you literally post the same idea 3 times in a row on this thread? I can already see that in your forum posts list.

There is already a unique death animation for a couple of enemies. Adding even more varied deaths and separate hitboxes would slowly hinder the Build-styled charm of this mod away, because Build Engine games did not have that kinda BS at the time... even 2 or 3 chainsaw deaths are a ridiculous amount for this mod. Remember, NTMAi tries to emulate the "improvision of memory from 90s (yeah, games were a bit more lightweight than nowadays, duh)" as well, you can notice this by seeing randomly flipped dead monster sprites. Just play Brutal Doom if you want more gore & variable death animations.

I am planning to add blood stains ONLY on the chainsaw since it takes less file space and makes more sense, so hold on until 0.2.5 or 0.3 is released.

Well it looks like Nash found a way to implement gibable corpses with the proper blood color if you are planning to optimize that feature further.

Absolutely fantastic mod. I can't express how much fun this has been over the past few days; makes the wait for March the 20th tolerable at last! The little nods to 90s constraints (e.g. the pallete-flipped zombieman for the shotgunner) really are the icing on the cake.

The one thing I'd suggest is- assuming it's possible- monster behavior by difficulty. In Blood, certain enemies would behave slightly differently depending on skill; for instance, the cultists would lob single sticks of dynamite at low difficulties, and on higher they'd throw whole bundles at once. This could be translated into behaviors like zombiemen lobbing grenades or imp fireballs having a slight homing effect.

Smashhacker wrote:Well it looks like Nash found a way to implement gibable corpses with the proper blood color if you are planning to optimize that feature further.

It doesn't seem like it has a gibbed corpse sprite in the video; it just disappears. I'll look into it further after nashgore gets updated.

Retraux Squid wrote:The one thing I'd suggest is- assuming it's possible- monster behavior by difficulty. In Blood, certain enemies would behave slightly differently depending on skill; for instance, the cultists would lob single sticks of dynamite at low difficulties, and on higher they'd throw whole bundles at once. This could be translated into behaviors like zombiemen lobbing grenades or imp fireballs having a slight homing effect.

Mind reader! That was one of the things I was planning to expand for this mod. You can see an early attempt of this feature in the ntmai_ss.pk3 addon. Also, glad you liked it. Stay tuned for 0.3.

Just my thought : the super shotgun firepower and kickback are similar to the riot shotgun of Shadow Warrior.