Brütal Doom v0.18

[-Ghost-]

Doesn't he bleed now on the ground when really low on health? I can't remember if that was BD or another mod.

[doomquake777]

I have an idea, too. Maybe blood decals could spawn on the wall when the player is close enough, while of course in his "bleeding" sate (when low on health). And maybe the blood decals could drip down the wall (as it would be sort of strange for "blood-splat" decals to spawn instead of the blood smudging, and slowly running down the wall).

Sounds Like Gears Of War's blood drip effect. That could only happen if you bumped into the wall. Speaking of the low health state effect, would it be possible to have the better screen crach effects with the small blood drip effect show up instead of that poor quality screen crack effect that we currently have

[SamVision]

I remember a mod that added unique pain sounds to all the enemies. It should be implemented into Brutal Doom.

[doomquake777]

I remember a mod that added unique pain sounds to all the enemies. I don't remember it but it should be implemented into Brutal Doom.

Sounds like Doom Enhanced.

[Zombieguy]

Doesn't he bleed now on the ground when really low on health? I can't remember if that was BD or another mod.

That s correct. He does bleed when low on health. But what I was saying was, while the player is in his bleeding state, which by the way, is indeed the point where his blood is spilling on the ground, if the player bumps into a wall, then blood stains/smudges would spawn on the wall, and to top it off, add a nice dripping effect, which will make the blood run down the wall also (at times).

[Sergeant_Mark_IV]

That s correct. He does bleed when low on health. But what I was saying was, while the player is in his bleeding state, which by the way, is indeed the point where his blood is spilling on the ground, if the player bumps into a wall, then blood stains/smudges would spawn on the wall, and to top it off, add a nice dripping effect, which will make the blood run down the wall also (at times).

Sounds to be too much complex with a low cost-benefit rate.

I tried playing Neodoom with the patch, I load it in the order I am supposed to and I get this error: Script error, "brutaldoom_neodoompatchv3.wad:INVENT00" line 2:
Replaced type 'HelperMarine' not found in TeleportBeacon
Not sure how to fix this, but thanks for the suggestion. I hope Sarge puts the Skulltag monsters into Brutal Doom that would still be great

You are doing it wrong. It seems like you are trying to load the patch before NeoDoom.
The files MUST be loaded in the following order:
1st: NeoDoom
2nd: BrutalDoom
3rd: The patch
You should use ZDL to make the things easier.

Speaking of the low health state effect, would it be possible to have the better screen crach effects with the small blood drip effect show up instead of that poor quality screen crack effect that we currently have

If you could provide one, yes, it would be possible.

Anybody else feel like higher tier enemies should have minor head shot deaths, arm/leg dismemberment, & wound states?
Putting enemies out of their misery while they're wounded is always rewarding, I'd love to be able to do the same to higher level demons.

An idea, the chainsaw or minigun cuts an archvile in half at the waist. In a similar manner to wounded zombiemen, the archvile's upper half is still alive, crawling around on the ground with guts & blood falling out behind him before he eventually dies.

The problem in adding arm/leg dismemberment for higher tier enemies is the lack of animations that could be used to do this. The David G. death sprite for Hell Knight/Baron which I'm currently using could do a good leg dismemberment death, but an arm dismemberment would be unnoticeable.
Same for the near-death states, not just for the lack of sprites, but for the anatomy of the monsters (example: you can't make a hell noble or a mancubus get on their knees.)

Speaking of chainsaws, I thought it would be pretty cool if you were chainsaw a Hell-knight/Baron, and it would go onto it's knees in a wound state with it's guts hanging out. Then you could kick it and it would sever the upper half of the torso from the lower half as the guts spill all the way out.

Given the noble's legs anatomy, it seems impossible to make him get on his knees since, well, he have no knees

[Devastator]

The problem in adding arm/leg dismemberment for higher tier enemies is the lack of animations that could be used to do this. The David G. death sprite for Hell Knight/Baron which I'm currently using could do a good leg dismemberment death, but an arm dismemberment would be unnoticeable.
Same for the near-death states, not just for the lack of sprites, but for the anatomy of the monsters (example: you can't make a hell noble or a mancubus get on their knees.)

There's always their back, stomach, or side they could fall onto. Limb dismemberment could lead to a wound state, this could cut down on the amount of resources needed. Hell, even a minor headshot could make for an interesting wound state (blow a monster's lower jaw off until it bleeds to death). Alot of the alternate death sprites for stock doom monsters have been used in this project, & I'm not quite sure I have the spriting capacity to animate entirely new ones, but I intend to take a shot at coming up with a few. I have an idea for a mancubus minor headshot, & a wound state. I will try my hand at animating that arch vile minigun/chainsaw death/wound state I thought up.

[Reisal]

Ohhh yes.... That would be nice... And, speaking of guts, we need more organs and guts for the baron/hell knight gibs too.

I'm waiting for imp/zombie torsos/half torsos to fly when gibbed.

[doomquake777]

What I was talking about with the screen cracks is, when you get shot by a zombie man a small bullet hole appears in the screen with a small amount of blood dripping out, then it fades away. I wanted to know if it would be possible to have that crack appear when the player entered the danger state? Maybe with a little more Blood.
I don't know anything about modifiying Doom so I can't really help out at all unfortunatley, I just make suggestions and try to find bugs when I can.

[Zombieguy]

Why are some of you guys quoting me on things that I clearly didn't type? :/

[Devastator]

Why are some of you guys quoting me on things that I clearly didn't type? :/

Fixed it XD Sorry about that.

EDIT: Started the base skin for the new break action grenade launcher. Likely to tweak around with it further.

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[Zombieguy]

[-Ghost-]

I remember a mod that added unique pain sounds to all the enemies. It should be implemented into Brutal Doom.

That'd be cool. Would it be possible to reduce the pain cries of a zombie/imp in their wounded state? It makes a really annoying high pitched noise repeatedly at the moment. When I use the PSX sounds wad it's not as bad, but can still be a little obnoxious.

[Devastator]

Some pick up sprites I came up with for the SSG

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From top to bottum,
Pistol Grip(from rifle),
Pistol Grip with Stock(rifle & shotgun, respectively),
& The original SSG style.

[Zombieguy]

Looks good.