How to make actor solid for monsters, but not for players

[Graf Zahl]

ZScript is your friend for something like this.

Here is a barrel that players can pass through but nothing else can:

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class MonsterBlocker : ExplosiveBarrel
{
	override bool CanCollideWith(actor other, bool passive)
	{
		 if(other is "PlayerPawn") return false;
		 else return super.CanCollideWith(other, passive);
	}
}

For performance reasons better do:

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class MonsterBlocker : ExplosiveBarrel
{
	override bool CanCollideWith(actor other, bool passive)
	{
		 return !(other is "PlayerPawn");
	}
}

The super call is not needed here and only wastes time in a time critical piece of code.

[Graf Zahl]

But... the players will cross players

There is no solution for Zandronum. It doesn't have any feature that allows such fine grained distinction for what an actor can collide with.

And the ZScript method does not? I fail to see the difference besides the method of how you make the engine do the things, or why only ZScript has access to engine parameters that other lumps don't.

I fail to see your point. Why should there be any native implementation that only creates more overhead for something there's already a solution for?

In terms of feature implementation DECORATE is deprecated, i.e. there won't be any new engine features whose only purpose is to avoid writing some ZScript code.
Either way you could never use said feature with an old pre-ZScript engine version.

[Arctangent]

But... the players will cross players

You have to take what you can get when you're working with Zan.

[Kotti]

What I'd like to know is if ZScript can do that, then why can't something like

-SOLIDFORMONSTERS
+SOLIDFORPLAYERS

be done? The engine is obviously capable of distinguishing them.

I beg your pardon?
Are you even aware of the distinction between implementing this feature on the mod side vs. the engine side?

To make it short: The check required here can be done without modifying the engine, but what you propose is a dedicated new engine feature with extremely low usability. Do you have any other motivation outside of "I don't want to use ZScript at all costs"?

[UsernameAK]

I want to just not support Zandronum, but our main developer says that WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT

[UsernameAK]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THAT IDIOT WANTS BOOM

[Graf Zahl]

Well, there goes any modding choice. Welcome Dehacked!

[Arctangent]

Time to find a new head dev!

[Matt]

For performance reasons better do:

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class MonsterBlocker : ExplosiveBarrel
{
	override bool CanCollideWith(actor other, bool passive)
	{
		 return !(other is "PlayerPawn");
	}
}

The super call is not needed here and only wastes time in a time critical piece of code.

Thanks! This will help me in something else I'm working on...