Heretic

akimmet · Post by **akimmet** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:51 am

But you could have just posted a solution instead of also going off in a tangent and advertising your wad even if you don't mention its name.

Personally I kind of think you mentioning heracy in this thread is ok, but you are known for going overboard and mentioning it in every post you make (not matter what the subject is).

Not everyone is going to like what you like, and not everyone is going to get excited about this project (or any project really). Relentlessly promoting your own wad is only going to cause more people who can't stand you, not get you more fans. Especially if you insinuate it is the greatest creation ever made.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:08 am

drfrag wrote:What's wrong with you now?
May be they wanted to try it, specially becouse they don't seem to
like heretic and they could try the new episodes in a different way.
I haven't mentioned IT by the way. May be they don't even know what
i'm talking about, how could they know what H****y stands for?
By the way ROTGS2 powa!

You talked about IT and that's enough - even if you censor Its name. As long as you try to shove IT up everyone's ass you see fit my reaction won't change.

I still wait for a discussion about Heretic where you don't attempt to advertise IT so bluntly.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:27 am

Heretic sucks simply because I had already seen Doom, if Doom didn't exist, Heretic could have rocked.

Oh yes, I'll give it a shot, the conversion idea sounds interesting while not really promising.

The Ultimate DooMer · Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:58 pm

akimmet wrote:Not everyone is going to like what you like, and not everyone is going to get excited about this project (or any project really). Relentlessly promoting your own wad is only going to cause more people who can't stand you, not get you more fans. Especially if you insinuate it is the greatest creation ever made.

True. I found that out the hard way at Doomworld.

Post by **drfrag** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:39 am

I thought it was appropiate to mention it in this thread and i'm
not advertising it at all anymore.
I should have received a real review at doomworld and i still think
H****y is not bad at all.
Why is it not promising? Becouse of those silly negative comments?
I'm not taking your death threats too seriously by the way.
I'll mention it one more time: HERESY.
Nothing happened, i'm still alive... Aiieeeee!

ROTGS 2 ++

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:21 pm

Not again...

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:29 pm

Why is it not promising? Becouse of those silly negative comments?

Not at all.

BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:58 pm

drfrag wrote: Why is it not promising?

because honestly Heretic with doom stuff instead doesn't sound too appealing, which is one of the reasons why i was against this project.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:10 pm

I'd state other reasons. First off it's not the same as making a TC, a program can do the work to a certain point but there's too many textures that would prolly look like crap if placed without previous manual selection, of course, it stands more than a chance, we're not converting Duke Nukem maps to Doom here, both games belong to the same engine so the prolem would be a broken aesthetic rather than architecture flaws.

Post by **drfrag** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:29 am

No, the levels look exactly the same. The conversion uses the original
heretic textures with a custom palette, original DOOM textures are
supported too however. This palette gives good results for both games,
specially for heretic and hexen i think.
Currently doom decorations are used but soon the original heretic
decorations will be included too, but for zdoom only.
The conversion is actually very complex and i think that the most
important thing, the gameplay, is good.
The scripts make changes i've done first manually in an editor,
specifically in DETH, they are performed again at the user's site.
But this is not the place to discuss these matters.
Feel free to email me if you need help with the installation or
may be i'll send you a private message.
Regards.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:36 am

drfrag wrote: But this is not the place to discuss these matters.

Exactly! So please don't.

leileilol · Post by **leileilol** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:07 am

You can always make a better and improved heretic if you don't like it

http://www.fragfiles.org/~cheapy/fh

As for you Dr. Frag, you should stfu - you didn't make it or should take credit for other's levels but you didn't even write the programs themselves, and stop hijacking too :rolleyes:

Post by **drfrag** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:25 am

Don't talk nonsenses, cheap. Seems like no one is complaining about
your own advertising, curious.

ROTGS 2 powa!

leileilol · Post by **leileilol** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:49 am

I'm not persistently "advertising" in everyone's way and also i'm not whining that nobody likes me.

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:07 pm

Is drfrag doing that?