If you had to introduce an oldschool Doomer to ZDoom...

[Ethril]

Runaway Train, KDiZD, and Demon Eclipse, in that order.
MAYBE AEoD, but only if it is clearly stated that not all mods are so "clusterfuckish". (Don't get me wrong, I love it, but it could be overwhelming for someone who is just coming out of vanilla.)

[Ceeb]

You know, a WAD I got a couple of my Doom-stupid friends into with was ZBloodpack. Yeah, it's mediocre-to-average vanilla maps with every single Doom, Heretic, and Hexen texture thrown in, coupled with all of the Weapon and Monster resource wads, but it's still a fun time an it got my friends into ZDoom, so yeah.

Although neither of them want to learn to map or code. So I'm a god to them.

[Project Shadowcat]

Oh, you and your visions of grandeur... What, all two of your "friends"?

[Ceeb]

What, all two of your "friends"?

Asshole. They just think it's neat that I can make weapons and stuff. And they're fully aware of the fact that I'm relatively mediocre.

[Project Shadowcat]

What, all two of your "friends"?

Asshole.

Takes one to know one, asshole.

[Ceeb]

Takes one to know one, asshole.

You're still an asshole.

[MartinHowe]

Have to admit Thunderpeak (plus the one after it in ZPack) is a good shout.

[leileilol]

do-tims

[FuzzballFox]

Void was the first true Zdoom wad I played (if you don't count ZD, that was my first sourceport) and that blew me away, so I would almost certainly show that, KDIZD like many have said...and some others~

do-tims

FUCK YES and Mock2 just to show them how far we have come with our level making skills!

[Pinky's ass]

Licence to Spell DooM.

[Siggi]

Am I the only person who thinks introducing ZDoom to an oldschool Doomer is a bit strange.
Surely you want to intoduce ZDoom to someone interested in a source port, or game egine, which is feature rich, not someone who prefers things how they were?

[Gez]

Doomsday of UAC (UAC_DEAD). You can finish it in ZDoom, but not in Doom anymore.

[Duducrazy]

i'd show:

- Ultimate Torment and Torture

- Zpack

if weapon mods does also count, i'd show

- Mutiny
- DuduKrazy's Guns III
- Zero Tolerance
- Yet Another Realism Mod

[Cutmanmike]

Am I the only person who thinks introducing ZDoom to an oldschool Doomer is a bit strange.

Depends. I was talking about someone who is completely unaware of source ports with enhanced features.

[phi108]

Am I the only person who thinks introducing ZDoom to an oldschool Doomer is a bit strange.

Depends. I was talking about someone who is completely unaware of source ports with enhanced features.

^Me 2 years ago

ZDCP Take 1, and Daedalus

Actually, I have yet to introduce myself to those two projects, so here I go.....

I don't hear much about it, so did daedalus flop, or was it boring? Though I guess it doesn't introduce the doomer to MODERN ZDoom anyways.