Is there oxygen in Doom-hell?

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Is there oxygen in doom's hell?

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Re: Is there oxygen in Doom-hell?

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revo794 wrote:Damn, I think it is gonna be off-topic. I never thought much about the nature of Doom-hell, but the lack of the plot references in-game (except text pieces and game manual) leaves player with his own perception of events.

DoomGuy suffers from mid-life crisis. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't have a chance to. So, when his squad gets that famous assignment on Mars, something breaks in his brain. Doomguy has a strong body, but a soft soul. He has a nervous breakdown and loses the perception of reality. Then two variants of plot are possible:

1) DoomGuy creates the monsters and, therefore, the whole issue with the UAC station. His squad gets informed that was a false alert, but DoomGuy starts walking around and killing all scientists, security forces, even his squadmates (hence all their bodies, but no signs of alive soldiers). While thinking he's a hero, DoomGuy becomes the REAL problem, and the REAL evil of Doom and Doom II.

2) DoomGuy and his squadmates fight the actual monsters in the first episode, but he doesn't see them, he thinks this story is all about him (hence the bodies of dead monsters and bloodstains on the floor). So when he walks into the portal at the Ep.1 end, he imagines the whole thing about travelling to Hell, then saving Earth, while actually lying on the floor, unconscious. He wished to become a hero, but he just failed.

I suppose all this looks raw from the first sight, but try to think a little into it.

^ I hate these "personal purgatory" style plotlines. They're so depressing. :(

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revo794 wrote:Damn, I think it is gonna be off-topic. I never thought much about the nature of Doom-hell, but the lack of the plot references in-game (except text pieces and game manual) leaves player with his own perception of events.

DoomGuy suffers from mid-life crisis. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't have a chance to. So, when his squad gets that famous assignment on Mars, something breaks in his brain. Doomguy has a strong body, but a soft soul. He has a nervous breakdown and loses the perception of reality. Then two variants of plot are possible:

1) DoomGuy creates the monsters and, therefore, the whole issue with the UAC station. His squad gets informed that was a false alert, but DoomGuy starts walking around and killing all scientists, security forces, even his squadmates (hence all their bodies, but no signs of alive soldiers). While thinking he's a hero, DoomGuy becomes the REAL problem, and the REAL evil of Doom and Doom II.

2) DoomGuy and his squadmates fight the actual monsters in the first episode, but he doesn't see them, he thinks this story is all about him (hence the bodies of dead monsters and bloodstains on the floor). So when he walks into the portal at the Ep.1 end, he imagines the whole thing about travelling to Hell, then saving Earth, while actually lying on the floor, unconscious. He wished to become a hero, but he just failed.

I suppose all this looks raw from the first sight, but try to think a little into it.
I think my theory's better:
Doomguy (called by his friends "badass"), hear that there's really bad stuff happening on UAC base on Phobos. They imadettly go to Phobos, and when they landed, the Doomguy was left in the ship for a while. When he came, he saw all his pals are dead. What should he do? Vengeance them! Then he just killed satan, the end. :D

My version at least doesn't make me feel sad. :cry:

Is it just me, or does we go a bit offtopic here?
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I'd also strongly suggest "Fight Club" movie and "Spec Ops: The Line" game.
^ I hate these "personal purgatory" style plotlines. They're so depressing. :(
I hate them, but I like them. They give the "sudden realization" feeling, plus, this helps explaining Doom's arcadish moments. Also, this makes Doom-hell DoomGuy's personal Hell, for the things he's done.
And yes, we've gone offtopic.
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revo794 wrote:Damn, I think it is gonna be off-topic. I never thought much about the nature of Doom-hell, but the lack of the plot references in-game (except text pieces and game manual) leaves player with his own perception of events.

DoomGuy suffers from mid-life crisis. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't have a chance to. So, when his squad gets that famous assignment on Mars, something breaks in his brain. Doomguy has a strong body, but a soft soul. He has a nervous breakdown and loses the perception of reality. Then two variants of plot are possible:

1) DoomGuy creates the monsters and, therefore, the whole issue with the UAC station. His squad gets informed that was a false alert, but DoomGuy starts walking around and killing all scientists, security forces, even his squadmates (hence all their bodies, but no signs of alive soldiers). While thinking he's a hero, DoomGuy becomes the REAL problem, and the REAL evil of Doom and Doom II.

2) DoomGuy and his squadmates fight the actual monsters in the first episode, but he doesn't see them, he thinks this story is all about him (hence the bodies of dead monsters and bloodstains on the floor). So when he walks into the portal at the Ep.1 end, he imagines the whole thing about travelling to Hell, then saving Earth, while actually lying on the floor, unconscious. He wished to become a hero, but he just failed.

I suppose all this looks raw from the first sight, but try to think a little into it.
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Eriance wrote:First of all, they're summoned out of thin air from cubes. :P
We can suppose that Hell has also developed the pokeball technology! XD

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About the DoomGuy story, I never understand why the hell he did not fly away on the ship if he was the luck one who was told to guard the ship while all others fight, well, to death. '-' I guess he is too badass, or too dumb!
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Once I thought about a similar interpretation of Doom.

The manual says that Doomguy was sent to Mars after shooting a commander who ordered him to shoot civilians. But actually, he was not busted, he was not taken to Phobos, he suffered a summary execution in the battlefield. He was shoot in the stomach and left to bleed to death in the dust, and Doom is just a series of hallucinations that he is having before his death. On his last thoughts, he dreams as begin the hero that he was supposed to be when he signed on the Marines. The dead buddies and hanging bodies are flashbacks of actual dead people that he have seen in the war.
This would explain why the maps are so abstract. Because in fact, they are just distorted dreams. As he progress in the game, things starts to become more distorted and abstract, with water lakes on the ceiling, living walls, flying skulls on fire and giant cyber-spiders. These are signs that his hallucinations are just getting worse.
When he "escapes from hell" and "wins the game", he is actually just getting relieved, as he already has lost too much blood, his body stopped to struggle, and he is finally getting a deserved eternal rest.
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Why don't we take this a step further? Doom guy was a guy that went to sleep and had a dream about joining the army, assaulting a senior officer and being sent to mars and then dreamed that he hallucinated on mars that there were demons in the base that he had to shoot.
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And when he woke up the next morning he promptly forgot the things he'd dreamt the night before.
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Re: Is there oxygen in Doom-hell?

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Couldn't we just create a thread for that theory and continue talking about oxygen?
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One day there will surely be an episode of Game Theory about this.
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Re: Is there oxygen in Doom-hell?

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Sergeant_Mark_IV wrote:I just think that Doom-Hell is just a very grotesque planet from millions of light-years of distance, and the hellspawn are actually just aliens.
...the hellspawn are actually just aliens.
...just aliens.
...aliens.
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Sorry, first thing I thought of when I read that. :P
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Well, if we follow the definition of an alien. Then they ARE aliens.
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Technically we are aliens to people from other planets...
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Demons are illegal aliens FROM HELL.
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The only guy really looking like an alien is Archvile.
Also he abuses corpses.
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