Human Resource Wad - New Download Link! Page 1 (fixed vers.)

Xcloud · Post by **Xcloud** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:56 pm

thats awsome

Sphagne · Post by **Sphagne** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:41 pm

These monsters look impressive!

Just one question, "Is the last monster for clearing the level?"

BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:19 am

killingblair wrote:I just made Bouncy's life easier ( at Bouncy) This version includes many things, like bug fixes such as the SSG marine speed problem (did you know frame rates affect speed?) I included the Destroyer and my Ice Dragon Familiar, plus I included some new fireing sprites for my BFG marine (Please for the love of god don't put translation on him!) I also included a test level Behold!

yay! thanks man...

Wasted Youth · Post by **Wasted Youth** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:10 am

I think I may have found a bug with the Destroyer.

It changed in to an Arch-Vile and brought two Cacodemons back to life and they were friendly.

Spoiler: Screenshots

Also, is the Destroyer supposed to reflect rockets? Because it did for me and their speed was reduced when reflected.

Post by **Enjay** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:51 am

Yes, I saw the Archvile thing happen too.

Also, is the little one-man tank thingy (From Duke Nukem?) with no-one in the window supposed to just sit there?

And a minor point - the level could be a bit more spread out. The friendlies often get stuck in the back row behind dormant friendlies and the switches. A bit more space would free them up a bit.

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Costja · Post by **Costja** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:33 am

Wasted Youth wrote:I think I may have found a bug with the Destroyer.
It changed in to an Arch-Vile...

If you have ZDoom, that supports Heal states in DECORATE, uncomment Heal states of the Destroyer.

Wasted Youth wrote:... and brought two Cacodemons back to life and they were friendly.

This is a feature

Wasted Youth wrote:Also, is the Destroyer supposed to reflect rockets?

Yes, Destroyer is supposed to reflect rockets.

killingblair · Post by **killingblair** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:13 am

I'll answer some questions... first off.

Bouncy wrote:
I wrote:I just made Bouncy's life easier ( at Bouncy) This version includes many things, like bug fixes such as the SSG marine speed problem (did you know frame rates affect speed?) I included the Destroyer and my Ice Dragon Familiar, plus I included some new fireing sprites for my BFG marine (Please for the love of god don't put translation on him!) I also included a test level Behold!
yay! thanks man...

No problem

Now

Enjay wrote:Also, is the little one-man tank thingy (From Duke Nukem?) with no-one in the window supposed to just sit there?

Yes, he is supposed to sit there because he is an idol decoration. But you can make him move with a script

Sphagne wrote:Just one question, "Is the last monster for clearing the level?"

Nope...oops...I forgot to put an exit

I also had the problem with the arch-vile, and I have no idea why the Destroyer is doing that

Post by **Enjay** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:16 am

Suggestion - Reduce the speed of the tank and then set it to have a very short duration for its chasing frames. At the moment, despite being a tracked vehicle, it looks like it is stepping around the level. I reduced its speed to 9 and then changed the chase frame to have a duration of 1. This made it glide around rather than step. Perhaps the speed should be lowered a little further though as this still makes it move quite fast.

Also, some animation on those tracks would improve it quite a lot too IMO.

In additon, is there a decorate pointer to use a_chase plus a custom sound - like the spider/cyber/arachnotron walk sound pointers? If so, IMO the tank would be improved by making a noise. Tracked vehicles tend to be pretty noisy.

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BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:03 pm

Enjay wrote: In additon, is there a decorate pointer to use a_chase plus a custom sound - like the spider/cyber/arachnotron walk sound pointers? If so, IMO the tank would be improved by making a noise. Tracked vehicles tend to be pretty noisy.

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no but that would be useful.

killingblair · Post by **killingblair** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:07 pm

It would be like a_hoof right?

BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:08 pm

killingblair wrote:It would be like a_hoof right?

if it existed, probably. but since you would specify the sound, probably not.

chronoteeth · Post by **chronoteeth** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:10 pm

Where may I download this?

killingblair · Post by **killingblair** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:38 pm

killingblair wrote:I just made Bouncy's life easier ( at Bouncy) This version includes many things, like bug fixes such as the SSG marine speed problem (did you know frame rates affect speed?) I included the Destroyer and my Ice Dragon Familiar, plus I included some new fireing sprites for my BFG marine (Please for the love of god don't put translation on him!) I also included a test level Behold!

Post by **Enjay** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:01 pm

Having looked at the monster resource wad, the sound+chase pointer can be faked by making a 0 length frame with the custom sound pointer.

No-ones taking me up on trying this stuff with the tank eh? OK, give me a few minutes and I'll throw something together just to see if it's feasable. I'm not really up on DECORATE, so who knows what will happen?

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Post by **Enjay** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:29 pm

OK, here's a quick and dirty hack. The moving frames have been extended to 3 instead of 1 but don't look at the animation because it's awful. I swear the tracks look like they're going backwards at one stage. If you can do better - do it

Other things...

I edited it to have the smoother movement I was on about above.

I gave it a fuller death sequence and borrowed the explosion sprites from the flamer zombie to spawn an explosion when it dies. Also, the gun turrets pop off. Not sure if I used custommissile to its best effect there, the arguments were confusing me. Again, if you can do better...

I also made a friendly super shotgunner pop out when the tank dies too. To tie in with that, I re-did the driver to wear a green uniform.

OK, what else, Oh yeah, the editnum, I didn't give it one. If this is used, someone can add one that ties in with the others.

I changed the bullet attack for the chaingunner attack pointer. For some reason I couldn't see a bullet puff when using the bullet pointer. Bug? Maybe it's because I inadvertantly used 2.0.63a at one point during the testing? Or maybe I did something else wrong?

I defined a decal for the tank to generate (just the standard bullet chip). Couldn't see anything in the DECORATE instructions as whether this can be specified in DECORATE so I used a decaldef. It'd be useful to have this in DECORATE. It would save messing with 2 lumps and dehacked has it.

I just grabbed some sounds off the internet. I edited them slightly. They seem OK.

For some reason, when I tested it (in the friendly monsters test level), a couple of times, the tank killed a monster I had summoned via the scripted switches and then once the monster was dead, the tank turned on one of the dormant friendlies - the chainsaw guy I think. Is this my bug, the level's or the game's?

Anyway, that's about it. Load up the friendly monster resource and a test level as well as my WAD, then type...

summon MarineFTank2 to test it

And if you want to play around try

summon NMETank as well

However, the whole thing was done really quickly (by my counting about 30 minutes), so I can't guarantee it being perfect. In fact, I know it's not. The death anim and death frame could certainly use a bit of work. But meh!

Where is it? Here...

http://www.zen64060.zen.co.uk/ftank2.zip

Oh, and a reminder of the friendly monster WAD I was using this with

http://www.freewebs.com/bcdoomwads/down ... nsters.zip

(BTW, there is something odd about that file - or my system. When I click the link, I get taken back to the Zdoom forum rather than the file. when I copy and paste the link, I get told my security settings won't allow me to DL it. I got it using a DL manager.)

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