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Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:12 pm
by whatup876
Yeah, awesome.

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:01 pm
by Spaceman333
Currently in the middle of a huge playthrough, but definitely downloading this and looking forward to enjoy it in the future. This mod is huge!

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:18 pm
by NuclearPotato
Loving the new version so far!

One bug to report, though. I started up a playthrough with the Consolation Prize version of the PSX Doom TC, and the level names in the Ultimate Doom episode are showing up as their Doom 2 counterpart. This didn't extend to the secret maps, it seems; Military Base was still Military Base, and so on. EDIT: I'm like 90% sure it's something to do with the code monitoring the spiffy new capitalized level names seeing the MAP01, MAP02, etc., designation and assuming that it's still Doom 2. Dunno why that is, seeing as how other custom maps still show their proper names. DOUBLE EDIT: I think you already disregarded it, but it's a load order problem if anyone else has this problem. Load con_psxdoom.pk3 last for proper map names.

http://imgur.com/a/qid0L

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:16 pm
by JohnnyTheWolf
Question: why is the Sawcubus not dropping its chainsaw upon death? Is it because I already happen to have it?

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:08 pm
by DoomKrakken
Or maybe it's not supposed to. It's an attachment that was meant only to be operated by the Sawcubus itself. Like the Scrake from KF(2).

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:13 pm
by Black Rock Shooter
DoomKrakken wrote:Or maybe it's not supposed to. It's an attachment that was meant only to be operated by the Sawcubus itself. Like the Scrake from KF(2).
Or just like the Stroggs from Quake 2.

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:31 pm
by DoomKrakken
Wait, those guys had chainsaw arms too???

(Forgive my ignorance, I've never played any of the Quake games...)

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:41 pm
by Kinsie
JohnnyTheWolf wrote:Anyway, I see you have not fixed the display issue regarding the 100% Message Size option. Are you saving it for a later patch?
Fixing this would require more maths than I'm willing to commit to while sober. It's a low priority.
JohnnyTheWolf wrote:Question: why is the Sawcubus not dropping its chainsaw upon death? Is it because I already happen to have it?
DoomKrakken wrote:Or maybe it's not supposed to. It's an attachment that was meant only to be operated by the Sawcubus itself. Like the Scrake from KF(2).
The Sawcubus currently doesn't drop anything because it giving the player a chainsaw earlier than the level designer intended may potentially make things easier than intended. I might make it drop one when gibbed in the future, so you still have to work for it.

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:26 pm
by Captain J
Sounds like a good idea. I mean, some maps don't even care about chainsaw.
DoomKrakken wrote:Wait, those guys had chainsaw arms too???
Although they don't have chainsaw and such, many Stroggs has guns for arms. Guards, Enforcer and Gunner... You name it.

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:49 pm
by KarolineDianne
Heya so, I just downloaded the new version and tried to play but... For some reason absolutely no zombiemen are spawning.

Only the laser imps.

Nothing but the laser imps.

This is more hardcore than I expected.

And I get these errors in the startup console:
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And yes, I'm using the latest stable gzDoom build, 3.0.1

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:42 am
by Kinsie
KarolineDianne wrote:Heya so, I just downloaded the new version and tried to play but... For some reason absolutely no zombiemen are spawning.

Only the laser imps.

Nothing but the laser imps.

This is more hardcore than I expected.
Huh... found the issue. Turn "More Actors" on. For some reason when it's turned off it's defaulting to Hell Razers instead of Zombiemen. I've committed a fix to the developer build, but I'll wait a day or two for more bugs to pop up before I push out a proper patch.
KarolineDianne wrote:And I get these errors in the startup console:
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And yes, I'm using the latest stable gzDoom build, 3.0.1
These are "normal", those are actor replacements for Consolation Prize.

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:31 am
by Trusty McLegit
including a couple of things that haven't been in any mods before this one!
Interesting, any specific examples? Also, would you consider making the fullscreen HUD more like this? Or maybe as a separate file? The current one just feels kinda in the way (Disregard my crappy image editing skills) Image

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 10:43 am
by vidumec
+9000 on hud change suggestion

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 2:42 pm
by whatup876
KarolineDianne wrote:Heya so, I just downloaded the new version and tried to play but... For some reason absolutely no zombiemen are spawning.

Only the laser imps.

Nothing but the laser imps.

This is more hardcore than I expected.

And I get these errors in the startup console:
Image


And yes, I'm using the latest stable gzDoom build, 3.0.1
Are you trying to load a save file in the consolation prize version of either D64 or PSX Doom?
You'll need ZDL, so you can have a load order of the files, because the order in which you load them matters a lot.

Re: MetaDoom v4 "Fred" (p79)

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:53 pm
by Retraux Squid
Some suggestions:

- Use the bluefire/burl tumd pistol sprites for Former Humans- it fits much better than the current rifle-toting sprites.
- Replace the Former Lieutenant with a machinegun-armed Z-SEC (sprites being available for these on Realm667 IIRC)- it again fits much, much better
- Add BD-style cosmetic tracers to hitscan weapons; they somewhat smooth the cognitive dissonance between instant hitscans and monster tracers.
- Remove the perfect accuracy of Former Humans' shots and Former Sergeants' center pellets.

For reference, here is my current personal install of v3; aside from the previous features, I've replaced the EMG with a Beretta, removed all zombies from infighting with one another, and otherwise done a few other minor changes.