DUMP Episode 2: Dump Harder [RELEASED]

[bioshockfan90]

Sorry it took so long for me to make this final update, personal issues and I wasn't on my computer for a bit. Anyway, here it is.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7ilrs33d6ga1 ... c.zip?dl=0

Changelog
-can't jump to red key

[Mor'Ladim]

Submitting this (final?) version with hopes it will make it in to the second build in time!

Black Metal Fortress

Map 01, and in the test build, it is map 57.

Changes are as follows (when comparing the version in the test build):
-Expanded almost every 'zone'. The gray castle looking area that was previously part of the base zone has now been made into its own zone, with new music added for it.
-Base zone music changed and a new music track added to a sub-zone within the Black Metal Fortress.
-Added 'roadblocks' to some zones to prolong their life. Mostly done for the sake of increasing the time a music track is heard.
-Added more enemies and items to previous zones.
-New mid level ammo types added for better balance and less clutter.
-Each zone has 2 secrets. Some are pretty devious/Guide Dang It secrets.

Maps stats are now:
(Old > New)
Monsters - 99 > 290
Secrets - 3 > 10
Items - 41 > 92
File size is now 2.75 MB

Overall, the map is a more challenging experience, compared to the earlier versions. However, I am not sure if it is balanced towards the later half, as I had to edit some areas a few times to account for the increased difficulty, and I really couldn't restart a test run when adding in an extra medikit and etc. because that would have taken even more time! But note that I tried a run to see how balanced it is without finding any secrets, so it may be easier than I believe if secrets are taken into account. I am also unsure as to whether I should move the Super Shotgun to an earlier location or not, for as it stands now, you get it rather late in the map, towards the final areas.

Other notes:
I had fun creating this map, and I can see why some Megawads had a long development time! This map alone took me the whole month to create and polish! Not to mention the custom props and textures, some created specifically for the map. I still would like to one day release a Megawad of my very own, similar to Scythe or Revolution, where the maps are short but still fun. Thanks to this project, I learned how to use Doom Builder along with new tricks, as before, I was quite inexperienced with it. This is also my first Doom II map!

I also get a very strong SNES vibe from my map, but that may be due to the map exclusively using SNES music. I also love Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, and it shows in some parts of the map, especially with the concept of zones and music changes.

In the end, I enjoyed the project and would be interested in the next!

[TerminusEst13]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa every time i think i'm good to go someone else submits an update

(Nah, keep up the good work, mates! Thanks very much for working so hard!)

[Dr. Stein]

One quick little update to Defecation Foundation.

Fixed a mistakenly marked pain sector and a few texture/HOM issues.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y4dg1f6sluy8y ... n.wad?dl=0

[Deviluke Roy]

Well, The test build'll be worth the wait! I'm sure of it!

P.S. I remember a video where Dump episode 2 was played by the Doom 2 BFG package (the one with the No Rest for the living maps). I just want to ask, will I need to make a seprate version for Doom 2 BFG users?

[simpletonnn]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa every time i think i'm good to go someone else submits an update

don't worry term, I've stopped updating simply because the time to submit updates is long over.

[SoundofDoomDoors]

I'm getting there. Here's 48 through 56, this time with SPOILERS so the post isn't massive like my last one.

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MAP48: Gorgeous, but overstays its welcome. Invasion just doesn't go fast enough in singleplayer. One thing I think would help to improve it would be more rockets in the third wave. I had to kill a pack of hell nobles at the end with the SSG, even though I had the rocket launcher and the plasma rifle. That was a lot of the reason I quit. I'd also mark both guns as secrets. They're obviously meant to be seen that way.

I also think the number of hitscanners should be toned down in the initial enemy placement and first wave. I had enough health to survive, but barely.

DNF. Death by boredom after wave 3.



MAP49: I played the old and new versions of this map. I refuse to talk about the original. It was awful.

Overall, this map makes me think it was made on drugs with the texture choices. I hesitate to call them plain bad. They aren't exactly good, but there's something...off about them. The architecture's flat, much like the quote says. I spent most of the map with the chaingun, since it seemed like the best choice against the SS. At least I didn't get bored here! I would have if it had gone on longer, but it didn't overstay its welcome.

Set the sides of your doors to lower unpegged.

100% Kills
100% Secrets
0 Deaths (on version 2, that is. I got BFG'd on version one. It wasn't funny in STRAIN and it's not funny here either!)



MAP50: Troll ending! I expected a cyberdemon or two after the megasphere. A fake-out like that is something I've thought about doing before myself, so two thumbs up for that. You seem to have a good grasp of incidental combat vs. traps. Most of the map is the former, but there are a few cases of the latter, like the pitch-black imp ambush and the SSG mob. I also like the way red and blue are used here visually.

All my deaths were to the archviles in the exit area. There were some bullets near that area, but they're kind of useless against the enemies in that part of the map. I'd change them to shotgun shells, or maybe split 50/50.

284/289 Kills
1/3 Secrets
4 Deaths



MAP51: Hey don't I see you on samsara sometimes? Pretty good map! I have three complaints. Putting the only health in the red key room in the archvile cubbies makes it very difficult to heal if you come in already weakened. Second, my ammo got very low after I finished with the archviles/red key. I had 20 or 30 rockets and nothing else. Ironically, zombiemen are a legitimate threat in that state. Third, I only found one suit of armor in the whole map. That was the blue armor in the secret area. Maybe you could add a green armor or two somewhere else like in the hospital.

The non-vanilla assets look very good. I was reminded of Shadow Warrior when I played it.

285/302 Kills
3/3 Secrets
6 Deaths



MAP52: How do I leave? The guns are hard to find and I have no idea how to progress. a lot of things should be more obvious than they are right now.

-First suggestion: get rid of the pain elementals in the opening areas. I felt like I was on a clock to arm up before the map was flooded with more lost souls than I could handle.

-Second, locate the single shotgun closer to the beginning. That way, players can walk forward and grab it before they reach a junction and potentially miss it like I did.

-I like where the SSG is.

-I'd put the rocket launcher on the floor at the junction leading to its current position to make it more obvious. I got it 10 minutes in after visiting that room multiple times.

DNF.



MAP53: Wow. That's one of the most impressive maps of the wad. I like how scrambling around at the beginning rewards rather than punishes you, unlike the last map. No pain elemental clock here! I do think it could use another armor or two outside of secrets/end of the red key area though. I played the first 99% of the map without one. It was painful.

I did see one visual glitch. In part of the red key area, after you hit a switch, a wall rises. The texture is seethrough. It's got some cacos and imps around, including one jerk sitting right in front of the switch if it helps you locate it.

176/190 Kills
2/6 Secrets
8 Deaths



MAP54: Boxy. The scripting and colored lighting are nice, though. Does it always have to be three keys?

56/58 Kills
1/1 Secrets
1 Death



MAP55: No. I don't like instant death platforming like this. Pretty lights though. I don't have any FPS problems in GZDoom.

DNF.



MAP56: I can't reach the second floor. I like the pacing of this map versus the other invasion level I've played in the wad, but I can't get it to work in either GZDoom or Zandronum. I also tried the latest update posted here and it doesn't work for me either. Maybe it's configured for certain compatibility settings or dependencies I'm not aware of. This is one map that although I didn't finish it, I would actually like to. I thought the first wave and a half was pretty fun.

DNF.

[Henix_Aurorus]

MAP56: I can't reach the second floor. I like the pacing of this map versus the other invasion level I've played in the wad, but I can't get it to work in either GZDoom or Zandronum. I also tried the latest update posted here and it doesn't work for me either. Maybe it's configured for certain compatibility settings or dependencies I'm not aware of. This is one map that although I didn't finish it, I would actually like to. I thought the first wave and a half was pretty fun.[/spoiler]

Try jumping. Just, try jumping around a lot. Especially near the outer edge (preferably without accidentally launching yourself off the edge- I did that several times while testing the map myself). It'll become pretty clear eventually. And if all else fails, shoot through the grate above the center of the arena; it's not as fast as going up there yourself, but it gets the job done.

Still, glad to know my choice in pacing was a good one. I figured, rather than potentially overwhelm the player with continuous spawns, I'd have it spawn a bunch at once, then wait for those ones to be dead before spawning more. that and it's easier to code

[AtroNx]

MAP55: No. I don't like instant death platforming like this. Pretty lights though. I don't have any FPS problems in GZDoom.

DNF.

Sorry, no excuses now, the updated version is out, try it an tell me what you think about it.

Here's the link: Updated_Map55.
..Ugh, the update was correct, my fault.


By the way, I would really appreciate if my map will be criticized more, just to know what can be improved, what can change and what not.

[Kribbulous]

Okay, finally fixed the most obnoxious bug! Here's the latest update.

Map37 - Towers of Fault

As a quote, I'd like: "Cacodemons are your helpful friends."

Changelog:
V2:
Playerstart, derp.
Some texture alignments.
Fixed imps and knights blocking the cyberdemons from teleporting in.
Deleted extraneous chaingunners.

V3:
Fixed the mysterious shot blocking in the first room (map exceeded 32,678 units - thanks Yholl for helping find out what was causing this!)
More texture alignments.
Added playerstarts 2 through 8 (why not 8 player dump2?)
Fixed monsters in the final area already being awake and infighting when you arrive.
Removed extraneous demons.

[Deviluke Roy]

I am in bold because why the hell not.

MAP49: I played the old and new versions of this map. I refuse to talk about the original. It was awful.

Basicly, there were some rooms with platforming, rooms without shading, some poor fights, no secret exit, etc. Well, if that didn't exist, I wouldn't have learned anything, would I? You grow by failing.

So I just had a short ramble, but I think it was justified.

Overall, this map makes me think it was made on drugs with the texture choices. I hesitate to call them plain bad. They aren't exactly good, but there's something...off about them.
Looks fine to me. IDK what's so bad about them, I just used vanilla textures. Vanilla's not a drug...is it?

Goddammit, Roy......you're trying to hard again! Jokes are only funny when you say something in them!

Wait, this was made on drugs? This place doesn't look it! It's as fine as it can be.

Let's just move on.

The architecture's flat, much like the quote says.

Well, what did you expect? This place wasn't built on a mountain!

Silliness aside, I think you're right. It is flatland.
I spent most of the map with the chaingun, since it seemed like the best choice against the SS. At least I didn't get bored here! I would have if it had gone on longer, but it didn't overstay its welcome.

Well, I was aiming for a short, easy map that didn't really try to be hard or anything.

*30 minutes later...*

Allright, who's the fucker that left the chaingun?

Set the sides of your doors to lower unpegged.

Done. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7n5enmiw3bhjv ... s.wad?dl=0

100% Kills
100% Secrets
0 Deaths (on version 2, that is. I got BFG'd on version one. It wasn't funny in STRAIN and it's not funny here either!)

Maybe you can replace the BFG zombies in STRAIN with what I replaced them with. I'm not spoiling my jokes!

Who made me say "Smeghead"?!

[SoundofDoomDoors]

Alright I'm done until the next version. That's a lot of Doom. This feedback post includes MAP37REDO, and 56REDO through 60. Maybe I'll try 55 again when the new build comes out.

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MAP56 REDO: I figured it out. Gravity on the platforms is normal, but on the edge it isn't. I wasn't jumping for the doorway to the upper area from close enough to the edge of the face block platform. Other than that, the rest of the map lives up to the first wave. I had fun.

Using the latest updated version, I was able to see through part of the floor on the outside of the map, first level.

618/618 Kills
0/0 Secrets
1 Death 4 lives left
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MAP57: I like the textures and changing music. I also like what you did with such a small number of monsters. Resource management is tight, but reasonable. With more goodies, it would be too easy. I played the version in the current DUMP build. I'll play the new one when the next build comes out. Good to know I'm not the only troper here.

93/100 Kills
0 Deaths
1/3 Secrets
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MAP58: Missing textures. I think I saw an update somewhere in the thread. I'll play it when the new version of the pk3 comes out.

DNF.
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MAP59: Pretty cool, but I can't find the pentagram mentioned in the messages after getting all the keys. The jump pads are cool, but where am I going with them?

DNF.
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MAP60: Night and day. The last map made me think of landscapes like the ones in Speed of Doom, even though it's not nearly as crazy. This level reminds me of Requiem. I think it plays solidly, but you should fix the sides of your doors. Set them to lower unpegged. Also, if you want me to fight the mastermind, lock the exit door. I left by mistake.

??? Kills
2/3 Secrets
0 Deaths
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MAP37 REDO: So the playerstart was misplaced. Interesting. What I saw looked fun, so I'm happy to try this again.

So THIS is the map term got crushed in. I saw that on-stream. I probably would have died there too if I hadn't.

Pretty good map overall. I like it a lot, with one reservation. It seemed like the imp/hell knight/cyberdemon progression repeated itself toward the end. I'd alter the monsters in one section or another so the two encounters don't feel the same. I was bored during the second one.

267/297 Kills
1/5 Secrets
0 Deaths

[Henix_Aurorus]

Using the latest updated version, I was able to see through part of the floor on the outside of the map, first level.

Hoo boy, I was hoping no one would notice that. To be blunt, I have no idea what's causing that. There's no vertices creating that section, there's no sector missing there, it displays normally in GZDoom Builder... it's confusing. Far as I can tell, it seems to be some kind of rendering error in the engine, or something, and I can't figure out how to fix it.

[Deviluke Roy]

You know, I have to apologise to Slade3. I now see the thing ID's. I didn't see them earlier. Oh well. It is what it is.

Back on topic...Well...there isn't really much to do but wait. Eh. At least I got to make a working teleporter.

[KeksDose]

Here is an update for my map (MAP53), hopefully the last one. Download it here -- It should work by loading the current test build first and then this pk3 over it. Here is a list of changes over the weekend:

• Changed the ending area in light of me getting a best time of 20 seconds by jumping on an imp
• Added a par time of 4:00 minutes
• Added two secrets
• Added coop mode starts
• Fixed the bug with the red bricks area staircase causing an invisible wall
• Fixed texture misalignments all over the map
• Changed Arch-Vile battle triggers so you cannot get stuck by rocket jumping into it
• Made certain areas look plain better
• Some balance changes, probably more monsters
• Certain skips are a little harder to get now (if you find a skip, it is intentional)

Thanks for the feedback so far. I will try to post mine soon. @__@

As for the quote: "If you look past all these books, you might just spot a castle."