So I tried using OBS to record GZDoom...

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Re: So I tried using OBS to record GZDoom...

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Apothem wrote:an i3 is weaksauce.
That i3 is weaksauce, sure. The i3 series itself is still remarkably serviceable, which just makes his choice of 2.2GHz processor all the more stranger.
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Apothem wrote:an i3 is weaksauce. You're trying to run a modern ZDoom port with a dual core processor AND stream? You don't have any overhead available to even run the streaming software. Minimum specs for stuff like that is at least a quad core. The streaming software needs at least 2 cores to run and a decent GPU.

This is a really important piece of the puzzle here. There's a reason why even the modern consoles that have this built in still have trouble with it.

Also if you dont have at least 512kbps on your upstream, you're not going to be able to stream anyway. The service will be too choppy for the webserver to record anything.

tl;dr;
Streaming takes everything you've got in that rig just to run the streaming program. You aren't going to be able to do shit with that.

Sorry to be so blunt, but really, you're deluding yourself if you think you're going to be able to do anything high-performance like that.
I'm pretty sure he's using OBS to record videos, not stream. (No one even said the word stream until you did.)
And really, I'm on a shitty Intel HD Graphics GPU and a Celeron G530 (A 2.40 GHz processor that has already been EOL'd) and can record things fine with OBS.

(And, in case you didn't know, yes, OBS can record videos.)
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If there is anything I learned about streaming doom its to never ever ever look at fireblue textures and even worse, look at a map while looking at fireblue textures. It turns any kind of video capturing to pixelated mush.
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wpninja wrote:If there is anything I learned about doom its to never ever ever look at fireblue textures.
FTFY. :D
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wpninja wrote:If there is anything I learned about streaming doom its to never ever ever look at fireblue textures and even worse, look at a map while looking at fireblue textures. It turns any kind of video capturing to pixelated mush.
That's what makes FIREBLU good, though!
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I originally wanted another laptop, but they were sold out, so I had to settle for something close enough to it.
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phantombeta wrote:I'm pretty sure he's using OBS to record videos, not stream. (No one even said the word stream until you did.)
And really, I'm on a shitty Intel HD Graphics GPU and a Celeron G530 (A 2.40 GHz processor that has already been EOL'd) and can record things fine with OBS.

(And, in case you didn't know, yes, OBS can record videos.)
Oops. Missed that part.
If he was streaming, I guess what I said would still apply. But yeah that changes things. My bad.
edward850 wrote:
Apothem wrote:an i3 is weaksauce.
That i3 is weaksauce, sure. The i3 series itself is still remarkably serviceable, which just makes his 2.2GHz processor all the more stranger.
That's basically what I mean. There are good i3 chips out there, but they're on the upper end of the spectrum. Surprisingly, intel HD graphics solutions really arent that bad (especially on the i5 and i7)
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I didn't want just 2.2 GHz to be honest, but that's the best I could settle for on my budget.
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Are you using Quick Sync?
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Even recording with an intel hd3000 was just fine vídeo here.
The only tip I ever made is to make the recording tool to record it over some external media (external hdd are welcome).
I had alot of lag playing and recording on the internal hdd of my old notebook, I then tried to record on an external flash drive but it wasnt perfect, till I tried an external hdd, and man, there was almost no recording lag *__*.
That may not happen over desktops, but, the new notebooks are just so slow that even a gameplay recording can make the hdd pretty slow
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enderkevin13 wrote:I didn't want just 2.2 GHz to be honest, but that's the best I could settle for on my budget.
Do you still have your old computer? There's an option of just cloning your video output from your new computer onto a second monitor, and then using another computer to capture the video off of it. Little bit round-about, but it would take the load off of the pc that you're trying to record off of. You'd need a capture card for it to receive the video signal off of the computer you're playing on, but it should work fine.

I'd still suggest using something other than OBS to do this. I would go with FRAPS or something that doesnt eat as many resources.

Also, you may want to consider setting 'core affinity' and isolate the two processes on separate cores on the chip. This may help alleviate some of the issues potentially. Technically windows is supposed to optimize for this, but sometimes it doesn't always work the best. I used to do this to stream BF3 because if I didn't isolate out 2 cores for streaming, everything got stuttery. This was before they patch the CPU utilization issues out of the game.

Win8:
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/24 ... s-8-a.html

in win7 and below you just open tast manager and right-click on the process and there is an option for affinity.
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I don't have enough for FRAPS, so that's out of the question. And I do not have another laptop working.
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That i3 and the integrated graphics are indeed on the weak side for recording footage. If you weren't dead-set on OBS you could try something that supports custom codecs, might be worth a shot, though I wouldn't be too confident about the quality then.

I used to have a really crappy PC until about half a year ago:
AMD Ahtlon 2x 64 4400+ (2.1ghz dual core)
3GB DDR2 ram (800mhz)
ATI Radeon 4730 512MB

This PC would struggle to capture most games in even 480p @ 30 fps. Doom was basically the only thing it could really manage.

I went extreme overkill on my new PC, but didn't have enough money to get the graphics card I wanted so I saved up for it over a couple of months while I took advantage of integrated graphics (my old graphics card was 99% dead)
My upgrade was for an i7 with an intel HD 4600 integrated graphics unit. It handled new titles at servicable framerates (i could PLAY most titles at 40-30f-ish fps, which is saying a lot for non-dedicated graphics), but recording was out of the question. Framerates wouldn't plummet, and the games usually stayed playable but the recording was several frames shy of being smooth.
I had better luck with doom, managing up to 60 fps at 720p or 30 fps at 1080p.

Basically, even with a beastly CPU, integrated graphics will only get you so far. Maybe the new skylake chip graphics are noticably more powerful, who knows. (But then, whoever has the money for a DDR4 system can probably spare the extra mile for a graphics card)
Likewise, no amount of graphics power will make up for a lack of parallel processing. A dual core might be okay for games that (mostly) use a single thread only.
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The best gpus from intel are the íris line, with 128mb dedicated memory.
But, they are only with i7 cpus and tend to be quite expencive, but if you want the best intel gpu, here is it
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ibm5155 wrote:The best gpus from intel are the íris line, with 128mb dedicated memory.
But, they are only with i7 cpus and tend to be quite expencive, but if you want the best intel gpu, here is it
Wait, are those graphic drivers or is it a processor?
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