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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Captain J » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:10 am

also it has a OP damage too, and those ammos are very easy to find(replacement of the wand crystals, duh.) either, so we can not to worry about death or out-of-ammo fact of seriousness because of that.

oh, and i'm waiting for key pickup sound sfx also more gold pickup sound sfxs too, like this!;
many thanks to Sangelothi's martyr!.zip
(209.96 KiB) Downloaded 145 times


anyway, i played it lil bit and it's wonderful, now finally i can see the ammo amounts has been balanced! anyway i hope i can play this mod among with hexen, that would be great.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Tapwave » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:45 am

I thought that there was no way you could do something as cool as Russian Overkill.
Well i was wrong.
Really wrong.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Hellfier » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:02 am

Just wanted to mention that even if I buy the health boost from the shop, it doesn't actually increase my health by 10 as the description of it states.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Marisa Kirisame » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:12 am

Confirming it works wonderfully with a gamepad over here.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby wildweasel » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:48 pm

TheDarkArchon wrote:
wildweasel wrote:Oh, here's a HUD I wrote for Guncaster today:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/766 ... caster.pk3


Dammit, Weasel, you beat me to the punch. I also a custom HUD thing for Guncaster:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6i428fb94nzq5jt/TDAGCHUD.zip

Perhaps we should strike a compromise. Your HUD seems to have been designed with the fullscreen mode in mind, while mine was designed for the normal statusbar HUD. Maybe we should join forces? I notice you've also figured out how to display the active spell, which is a feature mine lacks.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby TheDarkArchon » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:25 pm

You do realise that dammit wasn't all that serious, right?

Anywho, sure. My HUD was made as a fullscreen HUD as I use the fullscreen HUD 99% of the time anyway. As for the displaying the active spell, it's a case of checking if the player has each of the active spells. My code for it is below:

Spoiler:
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Captain J » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:36 pm

may of your hud got merged together, i really wanna see about that conversion, though.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby wildweasel » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:02 pm

TheDarkArchon wrote:You do realise that dammit wasn't all that serious, right?

Yes, actually. I guess I tend to be too serious when writing my replies.

Anyway, with your permission, I've updated my copy of the HUD to include yours as the fullscreen variant and adapt some of the extra stuff for the statusbar variant:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/766 ... caster.pk3

I also changed the CONFONT-based labels to SMALLFONT ones instead, changed the color of the ammo number (and made it quit going red...), added the spell icon and mana bar from the fullscreen HUD, and moved the gold counter to make room.

PillowB, if you plan on adding these HUDs to the Guncaster mainline, I recommend removing the mana and gold counters from the inventory bar, as they are now redundant with the indicators on the bar.

[edit] If you downloaded this within the last hour or so, please redownload as I've hotfixed the location of the key bar, that I'd mistakenly left under the mana bar.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby LostSkull » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:44 pm

How in the world have I missed this?
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Zhs2 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:49 pm

I vote the other way for gold and mana staying on the inventory since they are selectable items with no use so you can keep from accidentally Tome of Power'ing or otherwise. Lesser reasons include compatibility with the AltHUD. (Yes I'm a fogey that likes to see everything at once without the ugliness of a reduced screen.)
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Ethril » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:10 pm

Gave this a spin earlier. Was a lot of fun, but I have a few issues:

-There should be more melee options. The smashy punching is great, but I was expecting more RIP AND TEAR clawing. I like that you can do a diving kick or roundhouse, and the aerial stomp attack is awesome, but it's disappointing that there aren't more aerial options. If you could do a bicycle kick or spinning hurricane kick in midair, at least...
The Street Fighter-esque combos in Russian Overkill were a lot of fun, why not bring those back?
Also, I get that you can't do a roundhouse with the bigger guns out, but it should at least be possible with the revolver.

-Weapons should be boosted by the Tome of Power. It doesn't have to be anything major (that's what the boosted spells are for) but something like "bullets can damage ghosts" would be nice. Melee attacks could be infused with dragonfire or something.

-Needs Doom compatibility; Heretic is great, but it severely limits your map choices.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby nax » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:54 pm

Lightning should be replaced by a piercing railgun type ability. There's already fireball, frozen orb, and that super bfg spell for room clearing / multi target damage. The lightning doesn't do enough damage, is outclassed in terms of usefulness by the others, and is too finnicky in aiming to merit it. We have no high damage pierce type gun nor spell, and lightning would be the perfect use for this type of ability. (I don't really count the cauterizer as it's a pretty big / slow projectile)

If you do something like that, it'd be cool to be able to charge something like that. Also if you do something like this, make sure not to overdue the startup animation on firing it (stuff like that usually makes those pinpoint accurate attacks feel too stiff and finnicky)

Less importantly, and not really a balance change (more of a "neato" thing).

I understand fireball is a low cost spell so it shouldn't be quite as powerful as the others. Still, I'd love to see like a 'charge' mechanic added to it. As it charges it gains speed, with max charge throwing out a single flaming boulder from the tome of power version of the spell. charge time, perhaps 3 seconds for max charge. 1 sec 25% faster, 2 sec 50% faster, 3 sec 50% faster + boulder, something like that.

Honestly I'd love to add charges to most of the spells. Seems like it'd make spell casting a little more separate from just being another weapon (which isn't a problem at all)
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Jack Mackerel » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:11 pm

Ethril wrote:Gave this a spin earlier. Was a lot of fun, but I have a few issues:

-There should be more melee options. The smashy punching is great, but I was expecting more RIP AND TEAR clawing. I like that you can do a diving kick or roundhouse, and the aerial stomp attack is awesome, but it's disappointing that there aren't more aerial options. If you could do a bicycle kick or spinning hurricane kick in midair, at least...
The Street Fighter-esque combos in Russian Overkill were a lot of fun, why not bring those back?
Also, I get that you can't do a roundhouse with the bigger guns out, but it should at least be possible with the revolver.

-Weapons should be boosted by the Tome of Power. It doesn't have to be anything major (that's what the boosted spells are for) but something like "bullets can damage ghosts" would be nice. Melee attacks could be infused with dragonfire or something.

-Needs Doom compatibility; Heretic is great, but it severely limits your map choices.

I'd kill for Bioshock-esque weapon upgrades.

Also, I'm agreeing with the rally to nerf Devil's Kiss. Granted, I'm slightly biased because the vigor I used the most in BI was Devil's Kiss, but here, it's effective against everything, even without a Tome.

I think Threadcutter needs a bit of a boost to make it viable without a Tome of Power.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby nax » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:04 am

threadcutter is already very powerful. Early on it doesn't seem that way due to mana issues - when you upgrade a level (or 2) of mana regen it is probably TOO strong and can end up just replacing your need for weapons outside of the rocket launcher / bfg.

Once you play a bit more threadcutter is pretty ridiculous.

wildweasel wrote:Anyway, with your permission, I've updated my copy of the HUD to include yours as the fullscreen variant and adapt some of the extra stuff for the statusbar variant:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/766 ... caster.pk3


Getting there, though on the largest screen size it takes up far too much space on 1280x1024. The Skulls in particular seem a bit overkill as far as screen real estate. Font size could be lowered slightly and the box for ammo takes up a bit more space than it needs to. With the gold / ammo indications on the right shrunk slightly you could place the key indicators on top of them to keep it fairly even with the health/armor/mana bars. Also the item box could probably use a slight shrink (nothing major). As for the spell indicator, enlarging it hurts the quality a bit much. I'd probably just put at the radial menu's size and put it right next to the gold bar.

On 16:9 resolutions these are still valid changes, but the problem really comes in with 5:4

The hud itself though looks very nice.

EDIT: As far as mod stuff goes - I know a few heretic mapsets use doom / hexen monsters (hordes of chaos for one) and they do not drop gold. Is there a way you could do that or is it basically just a wad thing.
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Re: [Release] The Guncaster - Rock the Dragon... today!

Postby Jack Mackerel » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:34 am

That's the issue, I wind up forgetting to get mana boosters, and my inner Booker keeps telling me to hurl Devil's Kiss/Murder of Crows/Lightning. :V I think most powers at this stage are all pretty overpowered (well, slightly - lightning does have the inaccuracy bit, so that counts).

The fullscreen HUD is extremely tiny on 16:9 1920x1080.
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